Duramax/Allison Weight

[NL]

Can anyone help me with the actual weight the Duramax/Allison option would add to the listed curb weight of the 2006 GMC 3500 LB 4WD DRW vehicle. GM lists the curb weight of the crew cab model at 6552 pounds and 6351 for the extended cab version.

Thanks

[More Power]

My 2500HD Duramax/Allison crew cab shortbox 4x4 weighed 6550 lbs without driver or any accessories.

A DRW 3500 D/A 4x4 will weigh about 7K.

Jim

[tanker]

I should be weighing mine this weekend (Sunday) on a "CAT" scale, I'll need to deduct my added on accessories. I guess what you should do is take one for a test drive and weigh it.

[MartyB]

My LS 4x CC wieghs in at 7300 lbs without me in it! I've seen some wts posted in the 7500-7600 with the leather bucket seat option.

[BozDMAX]

The below, ready to tow, loaded w/fuel and the typical stuff a FT RV'er might carry but no bodies: 8080 lbs.

[Driveshaft]

Mine weighs 6720 with full fuel and tool box loaded, no one in it.

[rat4go]

I know this is an old thread, but for you 2500HD CC 4x4 Shorties out there, do any of you have axle weights for front and rear at curb. I'm looking for an understanding of how much 5th wheel tongue load I can put over the rear axle. With a ~6600 total curb weight from earlier post, and the fact that the truck is nose-heavy at curb, my current guess is that I'm at about 3800Front and 2800 rear, which says I can get away with 2800# of tongue and still be under the rear GAWR, but probably a tick above the GVWR (9200 GVWR if I remember correctly)

Thanks!

Rich

[DmaxMaverick]

Weight distribution depends on the position of your 5th wheel hitch. Unless the pin center is exactly above the axle, there will be some weight transferred to/from the front axle. You could measure the distance removed from the axle, and the distances between the pin center to front/rear axle to create a ratio formula. Usually, the best method is to hook up and roll onto a scale. 2800# is quite a bit, in any case.

[rat4go]

Right now I'm still shopping for the trailer, and trying to decide how much I'm comfortable towing with the truck. I'm looking at any of about 10 different 'toy hauler' 5th wheel campers for dirtbiking weekends with my family. Most of the trailers that meet my needs/wants have tongue weights at 2500-2800, empty weight in the 10500 to 12500 range (my est of a loaded trailer is probably about 2000 heavier with 2 adult dirt bikes, 2 kid dirt bikes, and all our gear, etc). I understand that some of the tongue load would end up on the front axle, but I figured I was being conservative if I assumed it was all on the back. I also recognize that with bikes and gear and stuff that would tend to be in the rear of the trailer, tongue would get a smidge lighter. Either way, I'm pretty close to the 'ratings' for the truck at 22K GCVW and 9200# GVW. Bigger tires (285's) don't help, either. Dualie isn't in the cards, so I'm trying to decide how far to 'push it' with what I have.

Anyone doing something similar in terms of weight and configuration with OK good results?

Thanks!

Rich

[OC_DMAX]

rat4go:

Most of the "listed" trailer dry weights are on the low side. I would probably add at least 1000 pounds to the brochure weight. Your concern with the truck will be the "Pin Weight" that the 5th Wheel puts into the bed of the truck. Most likely, with the size of the trailer you are mentioning (12K #'s dry weight), you will be WAY over the 9200 # GVWR rating for the truck. I would estimate that when you load your play toys into the 5th Wheel, your pin weight will be around 3000# (typically 20 percent of total trailer weight).

My truck (DMAX/ALLY Extended Cab 4WD) weighs about 7100 pounds loaded (two adults, tools, fuel and 5th Wheel Hitch). That leaves about 2100 pounds for my 5th Wheel pin weight. The pin weight on my 11,000 pound trailer is 2400 pounds (28 ft 5th Wheel Trailer). So, when I hook the trailer up, the total truck weight is now 9500# (7100+2400). I am over the GVWR by 300#. The rear axle weight is 5200#, so it is under the rating. I put air bags on to level the truck. It pulls the load just fine. In your case, pay attention to the rear axle loads and the weight ratings on your tires.

By the way, a good forum to research toy hauler brands is in the toy hauler forum at www.rv.net

Hope this helps,
Alan

[canucktravellers]

Here was our weights as per Provincial DOT scales.


A.) Truck is a 2003 Chevy Duramax/Allison 4X4 e/w Husky Slider & Weston Nerf Bars & Fifth Wheel Bicycle Hitch & two Bicycles
B.) Fifth Wheel is a Titanium 32E37DS

[canucktravellers]

I should have added to previous post that truck is an extended cab & the hitch is directly over the axle and the bicycles were attached to a hitch on the rear of the RV not to the truck.

If purchasing a hitch for the same vehicle & using on the same or similar Fifth Wheel would not get a slider again as in the 100 Campgrounds, RV Parks & other places we have parked in & backed into have never had a need to slide the hitch.

[rat4go]

Thanks folks,

Sounds like my truck (no leather) should weigh near 7000 ready to go (numbers between 6550 and 7200). I've recently received some 'real' data from the specific toy hauler that's currently tops on my list that was loaded up similarly to what I'd expect to do (1000+ lbs of dirt bikes in the 'garage') and my best estimate is that I'd still be a tick over 9200 lbs (9350 or so) depending on what MY truck actually weighs. With the toy hauler concept (and related 'garage'), I can't see carrying too much stuff in the truck while towing other than the wife and kids, so I'm thinking this is a pretty decent guess. Regardless, based on the estimate of my truck weight, I'm still over.

'Bout my only real solution is to go weigh the truck for real. With real weights, if I'm only a over by a little, I might have to take the truck's spare tire off and put it on the 'garage' while towing. Truck would be 80lbs lighter, and the tongue would be another 20 lb lighter with the tire in the back of the trailer. Hmmm. wonder if I could get the kids to ride in the trailer. :-) That's make for a quieter drive, too!

Rich