best fuel additive for LBZ

[Kennedy]

Actually the ONLY place I'll pour Power Service is...

[DmaxMaverick]

Actually the ONLY place I'll pour Power Service is...

I've been using PS for more than 6 years, and Stanadyne before that. Show me why I shouldn't use PS. What makes one product better than the other?

[drred4]

where can one find these additives? Any store to look in besides trying to purchase on the internet.

[Kennedy]

I've been using PS for more than 6 years, and Stanadyne before that. Show me why I shouldn't use PS. What makes one product better than the other?

While this old Stanadyne test did not include my favorite additive FPPF Total Power, it shows where PS ranks among many others.

http://www.stanadyne.com/new/ppt/showfile.asp?id=1156


There have been tests that have showed LOSS of lubricity by using certain products, and back a ways, Power Service was reputed to be heavily into the use of alcohols.

P.S. Stanadyne blue is my second choice...

[DmaxMaverick]

While this old Stanadyne test did not include my favorite additive FPPF Total Power, it shows where PS ranks among many others.

http://www.stanadyne.com/new/ppt/showfile.asp?id=1156


There have been tests that have showed LOSS of lubricity by using certain products, and back a ways, Power Service was reputed to be heavily into the use of alcohols.

P.S. Stanadyne blue is my second choice...

I'm familiar with that "Marketing Bulletin". It is 10 years old, but there is some truth to it. PS, at one time, did contain alcohol. Prior to the print date of that bulletin (Stanadyne didn't have current information), PS changed their formulation, and discontinued alcohol use. There was a time when alcohol was a desirable additive to Diesel fuel, but the more current use of aluminum and other component materials caused problems with it. I have a service/repair manual for a 1956 Cat D-4 that recommends alcohol blending for cold temps or fresh engines during breakin (thinner fuel for tight tollerances). The aluminum parts on the Cat fuel system are in the governor assy, which don't contact fuel (or not supposed to, anyway).

I would not consider that document for any basis of product selection. Even the Stanadyne formula used for that "test" is no longer a valid formulation. Also, I suspect the reason FPPF wasn't included in the test was either it wasn't considered at the time to be a "comparible" product, or it wasn't in production. I don't know enough about FPPF to know how it compares to current products, but I won't say it is a bad product, either. All products will offer a similar comparison, showing how their products will perform better than the others. This is why I discard all marketing documentation, for any product. They are good for a basic introduction to the product, but that's it. Very few products (of any type) offer any real-world comparison.

I value your advice, John, but I need more than a 10 year old marketing brochure to make a decision on current technology. You may be entirely accurate, but you'll have to show me, although I'm not from Missouri. I'd abandon PS in a New York minute if there is a better product that provides what I need.

[Kennedy]

FPPF has independent lab tests, but live in the stone age. A simple pdf would sure be nice, but...

[More Power]

The following TDP vendors all carry diesel fuel treatment and sell via the net.

www.kennedydiesel.com (FPPF Total Power - US)
www.usdieselparts.com (Stanadyne - US)
www.dieselservices.com (FPPF Total Power - Canada)
www.bd-power.com (Stanadyne - Canada)
www.lubespecialist.com (Amsoil - US)

Hope I didn't miss anyone....

Jim

[rknrollo]

I've been using the RBP since I bought my truck, I put some in my Moms 84 300d mercedes and she picked up about 3mpg's

[guerrero]

I have been using the following for 20K since new - no water in either filter (Pre- CAT and OEM). Results seem good so far.

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[hapaschold]

tried few bottle s of power service, in van , pickup and the benz diesels. definetely saw a increase in fuel economy in all 4 diesels,.5 mpg at best. less smoke and smoother starts in older benz diesel, and a slight increase in performance, which i d say is more in smoothness of operation in all others.