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Old 08-16-2010, 04:44 PM
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if the new ones are as good as my 02 Duramax no problems.
I have just started to look around and can't believe the prices I'm being quoted. It's been so long since I bought a truck I have no idea how to begin. Will the dealers be making good deals with these new diesels? At what price should one start dealing, Invoice, 20% or ?
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Old 09-24-2010, 06:34 AM
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Compairing the Sierra and Denali with configuration 2500HD Crewcab 4WD Duramax, I am seeing capacity numbers that don't make sense.
I have seen a lot of different numbers published, and after doing lots of searching, I've come up what look like the actual numbers:
Sierra----2,792 payload-----16,700 5th wheel
Denali----2,631 payload-----15,600 5th wheel
Can someone provide the real answer?
I've posted on other forums without any solid answer; also even talked to GM customer service who gave me bogus numbers and had no explaination for the Denali having less capacity.
I'd really like to order a Denali since it appears to me to be the best buy, but really don't like the idea of having to give up a substantial amount of capability.
??????

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Old 09-24-2010, 02:58 PM
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I would think the Denali would have lower numbers because it comes loaded and weighs more from the start. Axel/frame capacities are the same for both, so the heavier truck has less capacity.

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Old 09-24-2010, 05:06 PM
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I found the answer.
Yes the payload is lower because the standardly equiped Denali is a bit heavier.
The 5th wheel capacity is 1,100lbs less because all the Denali's have been manufactured to meet California emission standards----ie, detuned; by how much I haven't found out yet, but it must be substantial.

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Old 09-27-2010, 06:15 PM
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I was told today that the difference in capacity was axle ratio?? Denali offers a 3:73 only and the 2500 HD Sierra offers a 3:73 and a 4:10. Beats me.

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:23 AM
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Duramax equiped trucks come only with 3.73; 4.10 is only an option for the gassers
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:48 PM
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Weight capacities are only shown for the base model of the truck. The Denali has a higher unladen curb weight than the base Silverado, therefore will have a lower remaining capacity. All trucks, of all brands, are like this. The DMV weight fees are also based on these figures, in most states.

In any case, you will never (as in: NEVER) be able to legally load and use a truck according to declared weight capacities, in any practical manner. That is, of course, unless you are full of helium (weightless), plan on driving, forever, on an empty tank of fuel, an absolutely clean truck (as in no weighty dust), with no paperwork in the glovebox, and your weightless trailer is hauling canaries that are always flying. Declared weight capacities are always the barest of bare trucks, with nothing added. Also, they don't, usually, include the weight of hitches or other accessories, even if they come equipped with them from the factory. All this is in the fine print, if you can find it. The fine print isn't included in the weight capacity, either.
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I checked into the specs on the Denalli versus the GMC & Chevy while we were at the All American Quarter Horse Convention at the OH State Fairgrounds lst week. The trucks are all rated the same according to the stickers on the windows. All CC long bed Duallys with D/Max are rated at Max 29,200 GVCWR. 22,000 lb gooseneck max trailer wieght and 17,000 lb max bumper pull trailer rating. I think the cargo/payload max wieght is 6790 lbs or something like that. I was told by the Wesern Hauler Sales Rep, that the 3500 GM trucks were rated higher than the F 450 Fords. I will do some research on that. We bought a Chevy 3500 and towed our trailer back to Maryland with it. Awsome truck.
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