TheDieselPage.com Forums  
2017 - TDP's 21st Anniversary
What's New: | Feature Articles: | Product Reviews: | Member's Area: | Subscribe:
Duramax 6600 Diesel Page | Advertiser's Section | Classified Ads | Photo Album | Diesel Books, GM Licensed T-shirts


Go Back   TheDieselPage.com Forums > The Diesel Page Member Forums > 1982-2000 C/K Truck & SUV Chassis & Drivetrain
Register FAQ Members List Photo Album Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-04-2013, 10:06 AM
convert2diesel convert2diesel is offline
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 689
Default Dag Blum thing gets stuck in the snow

Got a 95 Chevy 3500 dually sitting in my driveway that has an issue with the 4WD. Took it out a couple of weeks ago, engaged the 4 high and made it about 1/2 mile then it dropped out. Turns out the 4WD fuse blew out and the replacement fuse blew immediately. Obviously a dead short somewhere.

Under about 3 feet of snow right now and crawling around underneath the truck is not high on my "want" list.

Any immediate suggestions come to mind? Anything typically to look for?

Any help would be appreciated.

Bill
__________________
91 Buick Roadmaster/Avant 6.2 NA conversion (gone but not forgotten)
94 Cadillac Fleetwood (sold)
08 Aerolight 23TT
06 Vortec Max Silverado CC SB (finally got all the bugs worked out)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-04-2013, 10:57 AM
DmaxMaverick's Avatar
DmaxMaverick DmaxMaverick is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: CA
Posts: 11,656
Arrow

Quick and dirty (since you're crawling around under it)......

Get the front diff plug, install it in a few minutes, and deal with the selectability when the snow is gone and it warms up some. The plug forces full time diff engagement. The transfer case will still work normally, so you can get in and out of 4x4 as necessary. Info on the plug is in another recent thread.
__________________
1985 Blazer 6.2
2001 GMC 2500HD D/A
2014 Chevy Cruze Diesel - Fabulous car, no problems at all, but sold Nov. 2016 @ 55K miles.
dmaxmaverick@thedieselpage.com
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-04-2013, 11:00 AM
DmaxMaverick's Avatar
DmaxMaverick DmaxMaverick is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: CA
Posts: 11,656
Arrow

HERE'S the thread. Some good info on what is probably your issue, with some other solutions included.
__________________
1985 Blazer 6.2
2001 GMC 2500HD D/A
2014 Chevy Cruze Diesel - Fabulous car, no problems at all, but sold Nov. 2016 @ 55K miles.
dmaxmaverick@thedieselpage.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-04-2013, 07:51 PM
convert2diesel convert2diesel is offline
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 689
Default

Thanks:

Now all I have to do is use the plow to tow it out of the snowbank so I can get under it. Who would order a 3500 dually with two open center axles. Even with 4WD the thing is useless in the snow and now with only the rear working, it may end up being a lawn ornament till spring.

Thanks again.

Bill
__________________
91 Buick Roadmaster/Avant 6.2 NA conversion (gone but not forgotten)
94 Cadillac Fleetwood (sold)
08 Aerolight 23TT
06 Vortec Max Silverado CC SB (finally got all the bugs worked out)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-05-2013, 02:00 AM
wpdozer's Avatar
wpdozer wpdozer is offline
Dirt Pusher
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Valley Cottage, New York
Posts: 73
Default

Duallys are notoriously bad when it comes to traction in rain or snow. 400 lbs of sand bags over the rear axle will help. I think you have more of a traction problem than anything else. Back when I was a kid, I plowed snow for the town highway dept. We had a few Chevy dually C30 2wd mason dumps, 292 6cyl, 4sp trannys with 9ft Fisher plows on them. We would load them to the gunwales with 2-1/2 to 3yds of sand and salt and never got stuck. We would rarely have to put chains on them either. Im not saying you have to load your truck to that extreme, but some weight would help drasticly.
__________________
1986 M1031, Banks turbo,700R4,4.56 gears.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-05-2013, 10:27 AM
convert2diesel convert2diesel is offline
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 689
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wpdozer View Post
Duallys are notoriously bad when it comes to traction in rain or snow. 400 lbs of sand bags over the rear axle will help. I think you have more of a traction problem than anything else. Back when I was a kid, I plowed snow for the town highway dept. We had a few Chevy dually C30 2wd mason dumps, 292 6cyl, 4sp trannys with 9ft Fisher plows on them. We would load them to the gunwales with 2-1/2 to 3yds of sand and salt and never got stuck. We would rarely have to put chains on them either. Im not saying you have to load your truck to that extreme, but some weight would help drasticly.
Truck was never meant to plow. At close to 20 feet long, it would never make a functional plow vehicle. The PO used it in south Texas to tow a fiver for a church group. My big question is why did they even want 4wd and if they foresaw a need for 4WD why didn't they at least spec a posi on the rear? Cost would have been marginal at the factory level. Checked the VIN number on Compnine and the open rear axle was actually an option and would have needed you to check off a box on the original order.

Fully agree about the weight in the back. This one currently has about 200 lbs. of snow in it and still won't move. Unloaded, most older pickups are useless in the snow, especially the long wheel base ones.

Going to pull it out today and move it into storage. Current owner won't need it till the spring so will address this issue then. Just thought there would be a quick and dirty fix to at least get it back into 4WD without having to grovel under the truck to get it out of the snowbank. Scratch that idea.

Bill
__________________
91 Buick Roadmaster/Avant 6.2 NA conversion (gone but not forgotten)
94 Cadillac Fleetwood (sold)
08 Aerolight 23TT
06 Vortec Max Silverado CC SB (finally got all the bugs worked out)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-06-2013, 02:24 AM
wpdozer's Avatar
wpdozer wpdozer is offline
Dirt Pusher
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Valley Cottage, New York
Posts: 73
Default

You hit the nail on the head as far as the trucks specs being poorly thought out. They probably figured it would never leave the pavement. I can understand the dual wheels for towing, but four wheel drive in south Texas seems strange to me unless it's used as an off road constuction work truck.

Still useless with the open axle as it will get stuck after a five minute rain. As you said, those long trucks need at least a posi, or in my opinion, a locker to be of any worth in the snow. Check out that Posi Lock setup for the front axle, I did one on a friends S10 and it works great. Throw a locker in that rear and you'll be all set.

Ever consider a GOV truck like mine? 6.2, 205 TC , rear Detroit locker, limited slip front, and old school locking hubs. You'll never get it stuck, and it might be a better fit in your neck of the woods. It will top out at 55mph , unless you throw a 700R4 in it as I did. Good luck. Wayne.
__________________
1986 M1031, Banks turbo,700R4,4.56 gears.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-06-2013, 09:56 AM
convert2diesel convert2diesel is offline
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 689
Default

Got that part covered. Have an 88 GMC 2500 6.2 regular cab. Two manhole covers and a 45 gallon tank of home heating fuel in the box and that thing will pull stumps. Use it only to plow the laneway in the winter and to supply fuel for the house (all my fuel tanks are stale dated so can't get anyone to deliver fuel for me...provincial regs ).

Was just storing the dually for a friend. Used it to pull my RV south last year (Myrtle Beach) and poured over 1,200 dollars in gasoline into it. Best mileage for the whole trip was 6 MPG. That's not going to happen again. Should have spent the money on fixing up the Caddy. Would have reduced the fuel bill by at least 600 bucks.

Bill
__________________
91 Buick Roadmaster/Avant 6.2 NA conversion (gone but not forgotten)
94 Cadillac Fleetwood (sold)
08 Aerolight 23TT
06 Vortec Max Silverado CC SB (finally got all the bugs worked out)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-06-2013, 11:18 AM
wpdozer's Avatar
wpdozer wpdozer is offline
Dirt Pusher
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Valley Cottage, New York
Posts: 73
Default

Send that gas guzzlin pavement queen dually back to Texas, LOL. That truck still must have cost a fortune new. A gasser with axles like that? what a waste.
__________________
1986 M1031, Banks turbo,700R4,4.56 gears.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-06-2013, 12:22 PM
convert2diesel convert2diesel is offline
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Posts: 689
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wpdozer View Post
Send that gas guzzlin pavement queen dually back to Texas, LOL. That truck still must have cost a fortune new. A gasser with axles like that? what a waste.
Current owner wants it to pull a gooseneck with his backhoe on it. Seriously looking at doing a 12 valve Cummins conversion. Truck is still very nice with no rust. Going to have ceremonial burning of the Chevy rat engine out in the back yard.

Bill
__________________
91 Buick Roadmaster/Avant 6.2 NA conversion (gone but not forgotten)
94 Cadillac Fleetwood (sold)
08 Aerolight 23TT
06 Vortec Max Silverado CC SB (finally got all the bugs worked out)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 1996-2017 by TheDieselPage.com - All Rights Reserved