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Old 03-17-2017, 05:15 AM
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Default Another source for oil info

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I found this by accident but it is a good read from a knowledgeable source. (I think...)
I found it by doing some research for an RV that we are buying with V10 (gasp a f.o.r.d. ) Factory recommended 5-20 oil. That seemed REALLY out of touch.
Anyways....

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/518/motor-oils

Is a good read about oil and OEM recommendations and WHY they make them and how they apply to long term use vs. short term TESTS.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:25 AM
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You're right. It was a good read though it underlines my intuition over the years. Have always used 10-40 in all of my gas engines and now use the Mobile 1 synthetic version (high mileage) with a can of "Moly". Never used anything else but 15-40 (usually Rotella) in my diesels.

Can candidly say that have not experienced an oil related failure in the past 30 years (knock on wood).

Have heard great things about the Ford V10 and have a few friends that swear by them. At least as good as the GM 8.1 though the V10 is not available with the Allison. Only down side is the spark plugs on the older 20 valve units. They have to be installed correctly or the threads strip and pop out of the head. If you follow the manual to the letter this is not an issue. A few head gasket complaints but that may be a case of overheating.

Seems all has been corrected with the newer 30 valve engines.

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Old 03-22-2017, 07:30 AM
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Default "Moly"

Bill,
I too use the High Mileage Mobil 1. What/how is the "Moly" you speak of?
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:35 AM
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http://www.molyslip.com/products/oil...il-supplement/

Unfortunately, your EPA has banned the sale of the stuff in the USA. Still available here. Comes from a Canadian company and I have been using it for at least 40 years. I do know that the oil and engine industry has gone through major innovations over that period of time and that the Moly may or may not do anything it just that I have been using it for so long, now I'm afraid to stop using it.

Hope this helps. If you want, I could secure a case for you up here and ship it to you.

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Old 03-22-2017, 08:42 PM
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I was wrong. Apparently there is no restriction on Moly in the US. Emailed the manufacturer on your behalf and this is what he came back with:

Your friends in the US are best to contact our distributor in Colorado. The easiest way is www.mrmoly.com There is an on-line store and they can have product shipped directly to them. Although the website says MrMoly, the products are Molyslip!

Stephen Joyce
Molyslip (Canada) Inc.

T: (416) 438-5523
1-800-880-MOLY
F: (416) 438-5513
www.molyslip.com


There is a page of testimonials on the Canadian site. Particularly the tests done by the City of Brampton Ontario.

http://www.molyslip.com/testimonials/

And no I don't work or represent the company. Just use their products.

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Old 03-23-2017, 04:39 AM
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Thanks Bill,
I suspected it had something to do with molybdenum, but wondered if it was a special brew you used!
I have used molybdenum based grease in the past. Don't really know if it made any difference! Looks like MrMoly uses that stuff for a cure for just about everything!
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Ballentine's essay on motor oils is one of the best (no BS) articles I've seen. There are couple of simplifications, but they don't affect the overall value.

As to moly, when I was with Shell, Ford required, in its M2C33 grease spec, moly. Our labs could find no advantage nor disadvantage to its use. While it offers no benefits, unlike most mouse milk, it also caused no damage.
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