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Old 08-28-2017, 06:08 AM
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Just did a Google search for hot dip galv, and there is a plant less than 10 miles from here.

I am going to take the new brackets to them when I get the fab work done and get a quote to have them dipped

With the weather we get here this is sure a great idea.

Thanks for mentioning it.


Paint is so so, but during assembly it can get scratched off or dinged, and then rust will start.
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I thought of the hot dip because we build some base plates for a precast concrete outfit once. They sent them out for hot dip and when unloading them at their yard the 1 in rebar started snapping off of the 1 1/4 plate base. When they called me over all upset I asked "Was that grade 60 rebar weldable or non?" Quick trip to the engineer and he didn't know there was a difference. Instead of their guys torch cutting the next set we saw cut them and used weldable grade 60 with no more problems.
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Hmmmm
Engineer had no clue. Bummer.


Well the project is winding down now.

The bulk of the work is done and I replaced the last of the Cedar boards on the East West long run right near the area of the beam replacement.


Working on an area on the corner where a bit of additional flashing was needed.

Would have been way better had I realized the issue back in 1993 right when they were building the deck.

But happily no serious damage was found.

Better yet NO BUGS
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Making a note to read this thread carefully. We were going to do some decking this summer but got waylaid by head gaskets and a ton of other things.

Thanks for documenting your experiences!
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Hope it helps.

I wish the $$$$ were there to have torn the entire deck off and started fresh.

Things would be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay different.

Bigger, more stairway access and the East West run would have a rain bib under it to shelter the lower entrance doors.

Sadly though the cost of fixing the well/pump back in March hit me in the $7 K range.

The deck is structurally OK, just needed a bunch of long overdue maintenance.


Always easy to see the mistakes looking back... the 20/20 hindsight ya know.

Happily the overall project (House build) was good and has been a great place to live now for 24 years.
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I thought of the hot dip because we build some base plates for a precast concrete outfit once. They sent them out for hot dip and when unloading them at their yard the 1 in rebar started snapping off of the 1 1/4 plate base. When they called me over all upset I asked "Was that grade 60 rebar weldable or non?" Quick trip to the engineer and he didn't know there was a difference. Instead of their guys torch cutting the next set we saw cut them and used weldable grade 60 with no more problems.
Any rebar is going to have a fairly high (relative) carbon content and require low hydrogen electrodes and pre-heat at a minimum. ASTM A615 steel for Grade 40, 60, & 70 has no upper carbon limit, so that might be what you mean by “non-weldable.” ASTM A706 has a maximum carbon equivalent of 0.55% and is available only in Grade 60. To provide excellent weldability, you’d want less than a 0.14% carbon equivalent. So you’re going to want to have someone who knows what they’re doing even to weld ASTM A706 rebar.

Typically, you should be spec’ing studs rather than trying to weld rebar to things.
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Aside from the tools and the temporary lumber piled all over the job is about done.

Need to replace the two corner trim boards where the pressure treated and cedar join on the SE corner.
Pix 41 shows the area well.

Still have a tid bit to do on the Galv corner to fit an end plug in to keep water out.
The #1 board under the brown flashing is a plastic board.

Added that flashing several years ago to keep water away from the siding.

20/20 hindsight ya know

I have some dandy dry 1x4 cedar that will fit nice.

I want to cover the corner flashing and calk it well to keep things dry.
The south side gets hammered by the weather real hard.

Stuff is in sketchy shape and I cut them up to allow the flashing to fit.

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