View Full Version : Please Chime in...I need some good tires
thechevyhdman
01-02-2003, 12:55
Well after 28,000 miles my set-you-on-Firestones are done and Im due for a new set. Its hard finding out whats a good, long lasting, good wearing, high mileage tire. Tirerack.com is pretty helpful, but Id like to hear from anyone here at this site. I have narrowed my choices down to these 3 tires. 1) BFG All Terrain K/0.
2)Goodyear ATS, 3)Bridgestone AT Dueler Revo. Id really like a fairly aggressive tire good on/off road and highway performance. Load range E in either 245/75/16 or 265/75/16. Which leads me into another question how do you guys find the 265's wearing on these narrow rims. My father and I have always run any highly aggressive Goodyear tire on our trucks MTR,MT,GSA etc. But dont really need anything as expensive as Goodyear or as aggressive. Thanks in advance for all your input BiLL
woundedbear
01-02-2003, 14:32
I just purchased a set of 265/75R16 Dunlop Rover RT's for my PY0's last week. They are 8-ply and good for 3000# @ 65psi. Unfortunately, I can't give you much of a review on them because they will be sitting in my garage until I hit ~50K...I had 20% off coupons for the tires that expired 12/31/02 and just couldn't justify throwing out the OE Firestones with half of the tread remaining.
I am suprised that no one, to my knowledge, has mentioned these tires on this forum before, especially with the amount of Rover RV and AT users present. I will admit, the coupons did originally lead me to look in Dunlop's direction, but when I stumbled upon them, they seemed perfect for my next tire. Check them out here in the "Light Truck Radials" section:
http://www.dunloptire.com/ourtires/index.htm
There are several reviews online that speak to the RT's outstanding mud and snow traction, while having a fairly quiet ride and great durability. Tirerack.com survey results also seem to agree.
Price of the RT's is another big plus: $127/each -> $102/each after coupon. :D
Most on this forum recommend the Michelin's MTX. The dunlops mentioned are only 8 ply. Your factory tires are 10ply E-rated. The michelin in 265/75/16 in E-rated around here is $180 each installed.
I will be going to them as well. My wife has them on a 4-Runner and has 45,000 miles and you can't tell there are any miles on them.
I think it was M/S ATX not MTX, sorry.
Bass_on_tap
01-02-2003, 18:36
My vote is for the Yokohama Geolander A/T + II. The look and perform great in the wet, snow and dry pavement. However, I tried to put 285 75 16's on my 8" American Racing Wheels and they were too big, way too big. I know others have 285's but in this tire, they touched the front bumper and the back looked crowded into the wheel wells. Only had an inch between the tire and the fender flares. I opted for the 265 75 16's and they look great. They are relatively inexpensive also. My buddy just scored a set of 265 Michelin ATX for about $105 each installed and balanced. They had a buy 3 get 1 free sale last week somewhere in N.C. He's a happy guy. Good luck. My two cents. Dave
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FirstDiesel
01-02-2003, 21:04
The Michelins are LTX M/S or LTS A/S with the A/S being more aggressive.
Tire Rack sells the M/S in 265/75/16 for 137, the A/S in that size is 154
chevmeister
01-02-2003, 21:30
agressive good wear cooper s/t
Don't need tires for my GMC yet, but I put the Michelin LTX M/S on my Ford when I had it. They had the longest tread life expectation of any of the light truck L/R E tires. At first I didn't like them. I thought they were very slippery and didn't feel right. I was working with Michelin and the tire delear when after about 1,000 miles they seemed to dial in. They were great after that.
I would get the Michelins again, but only if I couldn't get the BFG A/T L/R-E for my truck.
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I've got the BFG TA KO's. Hate them. There have been (no kidding) 14 different tires on the truck trying to get a set that will balance.
Took the truck to a dealer buddy who has a road force balancer and the "best" he could do was 27 pounds of road force. This is a bad thing.
This is a manufacturing quality issue.
I have Kumho's on my car and love them and I'm sorry to say I'll probably buy an imported tire for my truck next. I am leaning towards the Yoko Geo.
The Michelin will be released on 1/20 in a 285 series but the price will be steep and the dealers won't be flexible until the warehouses are holding inventory.
Good luck!
NutNbutGMC
01-03-2003, 19:25
^...Michelins...'Nuff said.
Hammer Down
01-03-2003, 19:44
Nice to see BFG in your top three choices. I have had ran three or four sets of BFG's and loved all of them. All terrrain is a great tire and long wearing if you rotate them every 10,000. The ones I have ran last about 50,000.
Goodyear Wranglers RT/S (Stock size). 11,000 miles and have 90% tread life on them.
They must make the RT/S in different plants where there is inconsistent compounding. I had a set on my 2000 K2500 that were beat with 24k miles on them. I dog it a little and tow a boat but it shouldn't make that much difference.
GMC-2002-Dmax
01-06-2003, 23:32
I have Yokahama Geolanders on my '02.
Living up here in the northeast with the recent snow fall ,WOW!! I really like them alot and am getting really even wear on them. :D
They have a nice quiet ride on the open road and are really good in the rain and awesome in the snow.
I LIKE 'EM!!!
GMC ;)
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TradeF, My RT/S tires on my last truck lasted 50K. The still had plenty of "summer" miles on them but not good for winter. Then again I get every mile out a tire I can.
I have 285x75x16 BFG All Terrain's (3305# load range D) on the stock rims. I was going to get Nitto Terra Grappler 265x75x16 (3415# load range E) but discout tire gave me the BFG 285's @ the nitto 265's price because I wanted tires that day and they didn't have the Nitto's in stock. After 5000 miles, no problems from the tires. They are slightly louder than stock but they're alot more agressive than the Firestone Steeltex A/T. No balance problems (vibrations) from 0-100mph and they look a whole lot better than the factory roller skate wheels.
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http://antiquetractorpulling.com/images/Duramax_4.JPG
thechevyhdman
01-07-2003, 18:51
I think Im going to run with the BFG's in 265/75/16. They are a load range D however are rated to carry the same weigh as the E range Goodyear MT-Rs 3042 poounds. Didnt make any sense to me but whatever. A local discount store, Costco is selling them mounted and balanced for 150 a piece. Out the door with tax 636.00. Thanks for your help...I will have the new set as soon as my rim comes in...And whe i get my truck back from the stealership(gave em a list of 15 things to do before my warranty is up) Bill
TooMuchMuscle
01-07-2003, 19:30
I purchase lots and lots of tires for my different trucks (Mostly BFG's) and have come across many tires from BFG that are blems. These blems are harder to balance and usually dont last as long. Has something to do with the rubber I guess. If you purchase your BFG's (any tire) from Wal-Slime, Costco, Sams Club, etc.. you are more likely to receive blem tires and will have a balancing and tire life problem. Go to a reputable tire store and you can get real BFG's. On Heavy Duty trucks a BFG (load range E) will last, with regular driving, a good 35-45K miles. Most blems go 25-35K. Save a dollar or two now and you will be replacing tires sooner than you want. :D
After two sets of Mich-- LTX M/S and thinking they where the best.
I now have LTX A/T and although a little more road noise they are better off-road.
I've got Cooper Discoverer A/T's on my HD. And am happy with them. They're 10-ply 265/75's, good for 3400lbs per tire (less for dually). I believe that they match the Michelins in the highest load rating available for tires for our trucks.
I can't comment on the other tires, but I _really_ don't like the BFG's. I've seen far too many of these tires fail (offroad mostly - in one weekend we had no less than 4), troubles balancing, out of round, etc. to even consider them.
--Rob
I've got the Dueler 285/75/16 on my 2500HD. I didn't really need the full E rating, and I wanted a taller tire (for looks and to get the rpms down a bit when running 75+). Anyway, I just drove straight through from Phoenix, AZ to Florence, AL (near Huntsville) on I40 just before Christmas. Right in the middle of the worst snow and ice storm I40 has seen in years. Mostly solid ice/snow (except for around cities with salt equipment and such) from Flagstaff to the east side of Oklahoma. I've got to say I couldn't be happier. We had less trouble on that trip than most anything out there.
Only time I had any trouble was when trying to run in 2WD, too much torque and a locker in the back makes things interesting on ice. First time I
Best 10 ply tire IMHO is the Yokahama Geolander A/T. I've had them on two trucks and they perform very well. Quiet on the highway and good in mud and snow, good ride etc. Friend at shop ordered them via (a) tire warehouse on line. $520+/- with install etc. Check them out on the web. Good customer rating, satisfaction and warranty.
Enjoy....
P.S. They look good on the truck.
;)
I have heard lots of good about the BFG's. Mine are crappy as I said above. I am dealing with a small town dealer, could he be pushing those blems on me? Do they have to mark them somehow?
DMAX-Hunter
01-10-2003, 03:20
My vote are for the BFGs. I am running 285/75/r16 and have had absolutely no issues with them. I now have about 20K on them and I have better than half my tread life left. I have had terrible experiences with Goodyears in the past, and as far as I'm concerned they're as bad as the Deathstones that came on the truck....
The stock size tire is LT245/75R16, but I see that lots of people are using LT265/75R16 anyway.
How badyly does the 3.8% change in circurmpherence effect the speedometer and odometer readings? (I know, by 3.8 % :D ). What I mean is, does it go from reading higher than actual speed to lower than actual speed or visa versa?
Of course, 265/70R16 tires are much closer in size to the 245/75, but they only make those in "P", which is, I believe, what they put on the half ton trucks and SUVs.
IndigoDually
01-10-2003, 09:18
The factory Goodyears on my 3500 are great. They are wearing very well, I pull trailers often, run the truck hard, and they are working well for me. They are also very good in the snow and ice. I plow a couple of driveways that are well over 20% grades, paved slick and in the shade. No traction problems. even after homeowner had driven up and down and packed the driveway I still went right up pushing the plow without any wheelspin.
My only complaint is the small size from the factory.
John
DMAX-Hunter
Looked at your pictures. We have the same truck! Wanna trade tires?
I must have pi$$ed off the tire god because my set (total 14 tires) has been an absolute nightmare.
I'm gonna get a new set of something and sell these in the local fish wrapper.
ChevHDMan,I see you have a Juice box coming. Whatever you decide on don't expect them to last as advertised. You will be putting new ones on before you know it! I have the Toyo open country tires and like em.
thechevyhdman
01-13-2003, 00:29
LOL Motovet. I havent updated my profile in some time. Ive been juiced for a good 10 months now, Mainly the reason for new tires anyway. I think Edge Products is in kahouts with some tire companies....I think everyone is going through tires like underware. Hopefully my next set will last longer then the originals
I know what you mean.Not sure how many miles I have on this set, but it wasn't long ago they were new. By the end of the summer I may need another set.
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