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rutwad
08-12-2006, 15:10
I am looking into a new LBZ 3/4 CC SB. I need to haul just under 13k. I am going to purchase a tandem axle dual wheel gooseneck 20-30 footish range. I live in Southern Alabama and all of my hauling will be local. Therefore, I should not have any problem with hills.

What do you guys work, will it work...safely?

Will it pass DOT regulations?
Albee
08-13-2006, 07:38
YOu wont have any problem with 13K and that 2500HD. You will be well under your GCVWR of 23,500 lbs. That truck will weigh right at 7K if a CC SB.
rutwad
08-13-2006, 10:09
YOu wont have any problem with 13K and that 2500HD. You will be well under your GCVWR of 23,500 lbs. That truck will weigh right at 7K if a CC SB.


13k is not including the weight of the trailer. And I thought the 3/4 ton GCWR was 22000 and the dually was 23500.

Thanks for the reply!
REDTRUCK05
08-13-2006, 20:23
I am looking into a new LBZ 3/4 CC SB. I need to haul just under 13k. I am going to purchase a tandem axle dual wheel gooseneck 20-30 footish range. I live in Southern Alabama and all of my hauling will be local. Therefore, I should not have any problem with hills.

What do you guys work, will it work...safely?

Will it pass DOT regulations?
No problem! If it is for daily heavy loads I would suggest 06 LBZ with D/A
Albee
08-14-2006, 16:28
The 2500 is 22K. I am sure your trailer will weigh over 2K, so you may be over the legal limit. But I feel the truck will handle it. What will the trailer weigh?
rutwad
08-15-2006, 08:53
The trailer weight will probably be 6-7k. I think I will go with a 1 ton.
DmaxMaverick
08-15-2006, 09:21
The trailer weight will probably be 6-7k. I think I will go with a 1 ton.

That'll put your combination well over the GCWR for a 3500. You need to look at a 5500+ for that combination to be legal, especially for commerce. 7500 (truck) + 6000 (trailer) + 13K (load) = 26,500. You either need to get more accurate weight figures, or overkill on the truck.
rutwad
08-16-2006, 16:50
That'll put your combination well over the GCWR for a 3500. You need to look at a 5500+ for that combination to be legal, especially for commerce. 7500 (truck) + 6000 (trailer) + 13K (load) = 26,500. You either need to get more accurate weight figures, or overkill on the truck.


I must be overanylizing my own decision. It's a ASV RC100 and mulcher head I'm looking to haul. I doubt toher people are using 5500's. My father even saw one behind a 3/4 ton. My concern is with the DOT, not the truck.
kaylabryn
08-17-2006, 07:53
Your machine has an operating weight of 10,150 lbs(without mulcher head), you can pick up a 7 Ton trailer that weighs in at 4500 lbs and your trucks curb weight from what I can find is 7500 lbs (7420)(for a 3500). So all this equals 22150 lbs. We all know that the D-max will have no problem but some local regs start to question when you get over 20k even if the truck is rated for that much. They start to look a little closer no mater what you are using unless it is a commercial rig in appearance. The 3500 is rated at 23500 lbs so if you have concern go with 1Ton and be done with it. The 3/4 Ton will do the job if your trailer has good brakes and does it's job then the truck will getter going without a sweat.
DmaxMaverick
08-17-2006, 09:16
I must be overanylizing my own decision. It's a ASV RC100 and mulcher head I'm looking to haul. I doubt toher people are using 5500's. My father even saw one behind a 3/4 ton. My concern is with the DOT, not the truck.

If you are concerned about safety and legal requirements, PLEASE don't assume something is OK just because you see others do it. There are a lot of idiots out there, and you don't need to be one of them.

As said above, any D/A combo will handle that much weight, and more, with ease, safely. The GCWR for a 2500HD is 22K, and the 3500 (newer models) is 23.5K. We can only recommend what would be legal, but you can take the info and do what you feel is safe. A couple hundred pounds over is no big deal, until you have to scale it. Another thing to consider is the actual tow vehicle weight. Although a truck is rated for more weight, the truck itself weighs more, which is part of the GCWR. Using a gooseneck trailer will give you the ability to control how much weight you place on the truck axles. Get that right, and load the trailer correctly, and you may have a non issue. If you have a public scale close by, weigh everything and be done with it. Just keep in mind that anything added in the future will change the combination. Also, be sure that all fuel tanks are full and all equipment is on board when you weigh, unless you plan on transporting without equipment and empty tanks all the time.
rutwad
08-18-2006, 00:40
Your machine has an operating weight of 10,150 lbs(without mulcher head), you can pick up a 7 Ton trailer that weighs in at 4500 lbs and your trucks curb weight from what I can find is 7500 lbs (7420)(for a 3500). So all this equals 22150 lbs.

22150 minus the bucket plus mulching head. The mulching head weighs in at 2150 lbs. So now I'm up to 24k.

The 7 ton trailer may be my best option. Is 4500 lbs. for a gooseneck. I could put 3000 lbs. on the pin and that would leave about 13000 on the trailer. That is close to the trailer's limit, but it should work.


Thanks guys :)