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Robyn
04-05-2007, 09:00
As some of you may have read I discovered some small cracks in a 599 block I am working to build.

In looking things over I had time to reflect on a lot of things and some teachings from my early days in engineering came flooding back.

The split line on the mains are very sharp and ragged with absolutely no chamfer on the bolt bolts or the sides of the part line.
These areas are as machined and very sharp.

One of the first things I learned about such things was that sharp ragged unbroken edges can and do leave a spot for cracks to start.

For example a journal that a bearing fits on will always have a nice radius in the corner and never be cut sharp.
This is done to reduce the ability of a crack starting.
Any sharp edge thats in an area that is under high stress loading can allow a crack to propagate.

Just like scoring a piece of glass so it will break.

I am of the opinion tha chamfering all the holes on the lower end of these engines is a great place to start.
A simple counter sink and a light touch to the holes with the caps off will do fine.

I also believe that following the chamfering a light touch across the edges of the part lines on the center webs with a file to break those sharp corners is also a step in the right direction.

One does not need to get crazy here but this represents some very old and simple engineering principles that work.

Its sort of like welding all the way around the corner of a gusset, you dont do it in high stress areas as the gusset will crack out at the corner.

If one looks at heavy equipment you will see that the welds are run off from the corner of the gusset and onto the parent metal at about 45 degrees.

The idea is to eliminate forming a stress riser.

During my race days we went to great lengths to shot pean, pollish and a whole host of other procedures to keep various engine parts from breaking due to stress risers left behind during the machining process.

I certainly dont think that what I have described above is the total reason the 6.2/6.5 main webs crack but eliminating every possible item that can further the disructive process is a step in the right direction me thinks.


Just some food for thought.

Robyn

rjwest
04-06-2007, 16:08
MHO: Engineers are now hired on Grade Point Average not experience.

Over the past 10-15 years, experienced Engs. ( read High Pay Grade )
Have been retired and replaced with 4.0 Nerds.....& Bean counters,

MaxPF
04-15-2007, 23:25
I'm in the process of building a 6.2. I have a 1991 660 block, and I have noticed two things. First, the webs are a bit thicker, and second the outer bolt holes are chamfered. One other thing I noticed is that the caps appear to be a different material. The clean block is a dark gray color, while the caps are a light whitish-gray. Perhaps they are nodular or malleable iron? Anyway, the block has 227K on it and is crack-free. So, perhaps later blocks may be the ones to shop for...

Here's a pic of the main webs (I'm drilling out a siezed drain plug, but the pic shows the mains fairly well):
http://defiant.blogdns.com:5002/Blazer/pics/diesel/4-8-07/P1010015-r.JPG

neo
04-24-2007, 20:04
Robyn et al,
I have noticed there is a very sharp edge where the main caps come into the main web top/face and fit down into a recess where they come together. THis can best be seen in the picture (by MaxPF) on the cap/web in front of the one his hand is resting on. Would it not be an advantage to run s small end mill down in this sharp to add a crankshaft journal like "deep fillet" in this sharp edge, thus eliminating or reducing the potential for a stress riser motivated crack spawning from that sharp edge? My block form the 83 van is just about ready to go to the machine shop for align boring. The ridge is evident (although just barely) on several of the bores on the bottom of the bore circumference. I also plan to thermally-spray Al2O3 (ceramic/alumina) to the piston tops to help with temps. Any additional input/advice or ridicule is appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Neo