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a5150nut
04-23-2021, 08:28
Went to start this morning and nothing. Checked left bat 12.23 v right bat 11.24
Put battery charger on right and after a while i have warning lights blinking on and off with a faint buzzer in time with the warning lights lower left dash.
Batteries were new 8/22/16 so its about time. But this flashing/buzzing has me confused.

spongebob
04-23-2021, 09:27
Mama has a device that does the same thing when the batteries are low....

DmaxMaverick
04-23-2021, 09:28
Disconnect BOTH batteries completely, ground a Batt+ cable to chassis for 30 minutes. This should clear any odd errors in the system. Reconnect ONLY the LEFT battery, until both can be replaced. Connect the Batt+ cable to the bad battery, but leave the ground open and secured out of the way (prevents incidental grounding, and secures the duplex connector). One bad battery can take down the entire system and play havoc with the computers. One healthy battery will do fine during moderate climate. I ran my 2001 with only one Yellow Top for nearly a year after the other died (after about 10 years) before replacing both. I would not routinely recommend this on a 2003+ model (significantly more complex electronics), but in a pinch...

a5150nut
04-23-2021, 09:37
Disconnect BOTH batteries completely, ground a Batt+ cable to chassis for 30 minutes. This should clear any odd errors in the system. Reconnect ONLY the LEFT battery, until both can be replaced. Connect the Batt+ cable to the bad battery, but leave the ground open and secured out of the way (prevents incidental grounding, and secures the duplex connector). One bad battery can take down the entire system and play havoc with the computers. One healthy battery will do fine during moderate climate. I ran my 2001 with only one Yellow Top for nearly a year after the other died (after about 10 years) before replacing both. I would not routinely recommend this on a 2003+ model (significantly more complex electronics), but in a pinch...

thank you very much I will try that.

a5150nut
04-23-2021, 11:31
Well did as you suggested Mr. DmaxMacerick, no joy. Was disconnected and grounded for an hour and 15 minutes. First try engine lights were normal. But no crank at all. Second attempt and engine light and buzzing in dash started all over again.
whats possibility it is in ignition switch? looked under dash not like my 94 was. going to research that next.

DmaxMaverick
04-23-2021, 12:12
Grounding only clears up previous issues. It won't cure an ongoing problem.

Not likely the ign. switch. Probably a loose connection or poor contact, likely at the starter solenoid or battery terminal. Remove, clean and reconnect all of them. Careful to not overtighten the solenoid lug.

a5150nut
04-23-2021, 13:39
I have tried for codes and there are none. Don't think its related but I did replace the horn relay yesterday it had gotten very intermittent.

When i turn ignition to Accessory on all is fine. When I turn ignition on all dash warning lights start flashing off and on, CD starts going crazy then tries to eject disk that's not in it and buzzing sound I think is a blend door motor cycling back and forth with the flashing of dash lights.

I have searched ignition switch problems and watched a bunch of videos but nothing compares to what I'm seeing.

Pulled ignition switch and checked for voltage in and have it on two wires 12.3 volts. If I turn on 4 way flashers or headlights when all the flashing is going on it stops and goes dead until I cycle the switch again. could it be I have lost body ground? Interior lights work, trailer brake controller is lighting up. Radio works, just everything else goes crazy.

a5150nut
04-23-2021, 14:25
Just back probed the plug going into ignition switch and can get lights on dash partial steady on one lead. then the next lead get rest of lights cant get starter to engage.

Next I'll try starter connections.

DmaxMaverick
04-23-2021, 16:50
It still sounds like a poor Batt+ connection issue, possibly the Acc. lead. It has a starter relay in the underhood fuse box. Try switching it with another of the same. Also, just because an old battery is showing good voltage, or even passes a load test, doesn't mean it isn't bad and causing issues. How many times have you (heard of) taken a battery to the parts store for a test, and told the battery is good, when they aren't? Later model computer vehicles are much more demanding of clean power than older models.

JohnC
04-24-2021, 09:30
You probably have to charge the remaining good battery...

a5150nut
04-24-2021, 18:38
You probably have to charge the remaining good battery...

Thats been done, Waiting for rain to quit now.

cabletech
04-25-2021, 08:56
Low battery voltage can mess up the security system. I had this issue with my 2006 when I replaced the batteries. A friend who was a service manager at a Chev dealer told me to make sure the hood and all doors are shut prior to starting the truck and that did the the trick. He also told me a ECM security relearn may be needed if shutting all the doors/hood didn't work.

Jay

a5150nut
04-25-2021, 12:36
Low battery voltage can mess up the security system. I had this issue with my 2006 when I replaced the batteries. A friend who was a service manager at a Chev dealer told me to make sure the hood and all doors are shut prior to starting the truck and that did the the trick. He also told me a ECM security relearn may be needed if shutting all the doors/hood didn't work.

Jay

Thanks for that advise. Was looking at pulling the right front wheel and fender well and decided to take the batteries to have them checked instead. Left was toast and right was questionable. Put new batteries in and lights came on like they should. Fired right up. Only thong now is it says time for oil change. By the odometer its about 400 miles away so that's next on my list.