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Mic
11-20-2001, 06:24
mdrag,

here are the 50+ parameters from my autotap:

I say 50+ show up but 50 are unique!

* equals repeated

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comprehensive comp
*engine speed
*vehicle speed
*intake air temp
maf air flow rate
obd system
auxilary input status
calculated load value
engine coolnat temp
map
mass air flow
rear O2 heater current
ignition voltage
fuel temp
throttle position sensor nornmalized
throttle position #2 (aka applied pedal position)
throttle position #3 (aka applied pedal position)
glow plug volts
injection pump CAM ref missed
turbo boost pressure
start up coolant temp
desired idle speed
injector pulse width
injector pulse width cylinder #2
injector pulse width cylinder #3
injector pulse width cylinder #4
barametric pressure
engine oil life
engine run time
calculated A/C load
device control reject code
fuel rate
TDC offset
default: crank ref missed(diesel) TDC offset
warm up cycles without emmision fauls
warm up cycles without non-emmission faults
mileage since last code clear
odometer when 1st code set since cleared
odometer when last code set was cleared
freeze frame counter
freeze frame pass counter
*freeze frame not run counter
fuel level
VTD auto-learn counter
VTD timer
VTD seed and keytimer
fuel tank rated capacity
fuel tank level remaining
throttle position #1
current time


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mdrag
11-20-2001, 09:37
Mic,

Thanks for that info. I emailed AutoTap yesterday with a question about this - different parameters on '01 DMAX trucks, yours a 2500 and mine a 3500. This was the response:


It sounds like the manufacturer is using a different PCM on the 3500 than on
the 2500. Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: mdrag
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Joe Ebner
Subject: Re: AT123 parameter list for 2001 DMAX 6.6L turbo-diesel


Joe,

I frequent thedieselpage.com forums. One of the other members (Mic) reports
that he sees additional parameters using AutoTap on his 01 DMAX. His truck
is a 2500 and mine is a 3500, both with the DMAX/Allison trans. Some of the
parameters he reports that I don't have available are:

PTO output enable voltage
Throttle position sensor normalized
Desired idle speed (to complement engine spped)
Engine run time (time between key on key off)
Engine oil life
WRT fuel tank capacity (remaining and total cap.)
Ignition voltage


http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001477.html

Do you have possible explanation for this?

Thanks.


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mdrag
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'01 3500 DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Kennedy Diesel Mystery Mod, Alcoas, TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/fast fill.... etc.
[/list]

mdrag
11-20-2001, 12:50
Mic,

I hope you don't mind that I forwarded your parameter list to Joe Ebner at AutoTap so he can see the differences in the available parameters with these two trucks - '01 2500HD vs. '01 3500 with the D/A.

Would you mind checking your truck's OBDII connector and posting the pin positions? For convention, the TOP ROW are PINS 1 through 8 from LEFT to RIGHT, and the BOTTOM ROW are PINS 9 through 16 LEFT to RIGHT.

The OBDII connector on my truck has PINS at positions 2,4,5,14, and 16.

I like your list better!! http://www.plauder-smilies.com/bawling.gif

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mdrag
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'01 3500 DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Kennedy Diesel Mystery Mod, Alcoas, TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/fast fill.... etc.
[/list]

AzKevin
11-20-2001, 17:54
I should be getting the AT123 next week and then many questions will arise. Are you both running the same AT model?

I noticed the AutoTap demo website shows a few parameters that appear to be torque related:

Des Torque Brake-PCM
Del Trq Eng_trans Input

Are these really available or are they derived result?


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'01 Silverado 2500HD Dmax/Allison Ext 4x4 SB - "I drive a 2500HD"

mdrag
11-20-2001, 18:51
AzKevin,

I have the AT123, not sure which one Mic has. I was under the impression that AT1 vs AT123 should not make a difference.


Des Torque Brake-PCM
Del Trq Eng_trans Input

Neither of those are on the list of parameters available on my 3500. Here is my list of parameters:

November 11, 2001

AT123, AutoTap for Windows v1.11 parameters for the 2001 DMAX

1) Comprehensive Comp (?)
2) Misfire test
3) *Engine coolant temp
4) *Engine speed
5) *Vehicle speed
6) MAF air flow rate
7) OBD system
8) Calc. load value
9) Mass air flow
10) Throttle position #3 aka APP
11) Glow plug volts
12) Inj. pump CAM ref missed
13) Turbo boost pressure (seems to report total pressure = atmospheric pressure + turbo boost pressure)
14) Start up coolant temp
15) Injector pulse width
16) Injector pulse width cylinder #2
17) Injector pulse width cylinder #3
18) Injector pulse width cylinder #4
19) Fuel rate
20) TDC offset
21) Default: Crank ref missed (diesel) TDC offset
22) Warm up cycles without non-emission faults
23) Mileage since last code cleared
24) Odometer when 1st code set since cleared (this is how it is worded, ?

Mic
11-21-2001, 06:25
mdrag,

I'll check my connector pin out and report back to you.

As few forwarding my parameter list, go for it, hope it helps out. BTW, did you check your TRUCK's FIRMWARE version on your auto tap program's open connect srcreen. I think Joe is CORRECT. Mine I believe mine is version 1.01?. This FIRMWARE number is ONLY present when your connected. We both have the same windows program version of 1.11, so that is ruled out.

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Mic
11-21-2001, 06:30
Opps. Forgot to answer a question you posted.

I have the AT1 -used just for GM products. I did not need to hook up to other manufacture's obdii systems.
BUT like you stated, it should NOT make any difference. Once again I believe it has to do with ECM firmware version.

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mdrag
11-21-2001, 09:31
Mic,

I have not noted the firmware version and will check that out. Thanks. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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mdrag
========================
'01 3500 DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Kennedy Diesel Mystery Mod, Alcoas, TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/fast fill.... etc.
[/list]

Mic
11-21-2001, 11:36
I have not noted the firmware version and will check that out.

Yea, it's EASY to miss, cuz it is only visible when you're connected to a vehicle.

Let me know....I'm interested as well.

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mdrag
11-22-2001, 18:40
Mic,

I hooked up the AutoTap AT-123 Windows version 1.11. The FIRMWARE version at the bottom of the opening screen is 1.11.

?I think this may be the firmware version of the AutoTap unit and not the truck? I will email AutoTap and see what they have to say. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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mdrag
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'01 3500 DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Kennedy Diesel Mystery Mod, Alcoas, TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/fast fill.... etc.
[/list]

Mic
11-23-2001, 11:40
Would you mind checking your truck's OBDII connector and posting the pin positions? For convention, the TOP ROW are PINS 1 through 8 from LEFT to RIGHT, and the BOTTOM ROW are PINS 9 through 16 LEFT to RIGHT.

The OBDII connector on my truck has PINS at positions 2,4,5,14, and 16.


Ditto on the pin locations for me.


I hooked up the AutoTap AT-123 Windows version 1.11. The FIRMWARE version at the bottom of the opening screen is 1.11.

?I think this may be the firmware version of the AutoTap unit and not the truck? I will email AutoTap and see what they have to say.


That is STRANGE !!!!

Mine lists auto tap versio 1.11
as long as I am hooked up to the truck it
reads firmware 1.01.

If I am NOT hooked up I do not get a firmware number.

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Mic
11-26-2001, 09:56
mdrag any update on your firmware version?

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mdrag
11-26-2001, 13:58
Mic,

Just got a reply from Joe Ebner at AutoTap:


This is the firmware version of the AutoTap. Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: mdrag
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 6:45 PM
To: Joe Ebner
Subject: RE: AT123 parameter list for 2001 DMAX 6.6L turbo-diesel


Joe,

The opening screen when starting AutoTap v1.11 for Windows reports a
firmware version near the bottom. My AT-123 shows a firmware version of
1.11. Is this the firmware of the AutoTap interface, or the truck's
ECM/PCM. Thanks.

mdrag

http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif



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mdrag
========================
'01 3500 DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/Fast Fill fillneck
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Kennedy Diesel Mystery Mod, Dual Alternators, CD Changer and Steering Wheel Audio Controls, Alcoas, .... etc.
[/list]

Mic
11-27-2001, 12:02
mdrag,

Think you chopped the response off your e-mail reply.??

But I think you ment the AT123 module is firmware 1.11, where as my AT1 module firmware is 1.01.

But we do agree on the software version number.

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Mic
01-04-2002, 12:24
ttt

mdrag,

Any closure with this?

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mdrag
01-04-2002, 14:14
Mic,

In my post above, my email question to Joe Ebner is at the bottom of the quote:


Joe,

The opening screen when starting AutoTap v1.11 for Windows reports a
firmware version near the bottom. My AT-123 shows a firmware version of
1.11. Is this the firmware of the AutoTap interface, or the truck's
ECM/PCM. Thanks.

mdrag

And the reply from Joe Ebner at AutoTap:


This is the firmware version of the AutoTap. Joe

Therefore, the firmware version displayed when starting the AutoTap program is for the AutoTap interface NOT the PCM.


...But I think you ment the AT123 module is firmware 1.11, where as my AT1 module firmware is 1.01.

Yes. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif




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mdrag
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'01 3500 "BIG DOOLEY" DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE>
<LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather
<LI>12 Disc CD Changer/Escalade Steering Wheel Audio Controls/Pioneer TS-C1653 Component Speakers
<LI>Kennedy Diesel Headlight Harness with 4 Lamp Mode/Dual Alts with PowerMaster 200A
<LI>TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/Fast Fill fillneck/ROSTRA Obstacle Sensing System
<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System
<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option
<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights
<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods
<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles
<LI>Future Mods Include: Alcoas, Performance Module.... etc.
[/list]

Mic
01-05-2002, 09:41
Yes http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Just did not know if you were happy with the amount of parameters you had access to, or if you were looking to have Autotap ugrade (if possible) your AT1/123 box.

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mdrag
01-05-2002, 11:52
Mic,


Just did not know if you were happy with the amount of parameters you had access to, or if you were looking to have Autotap ugrade (if possible) your AT1/123 box.

I'm disappointed that I do not see all the parameters in AutoTap that you have access to but overall very satisfied with the unit and would buy it again.

Joe Ebner from AutoTap seems to believe there is some difference in the ECM between the 2500HD vs. 3500 and they need to get their hands on a D/A for testing and calibration. AutoTap does update it's software periodically and I'm hopeful the situation will improve with time.

I've noticed the older vehicles seem to have the most parameters available - a 1996 Chevy pickup had more parameters than any of the others I've tried - so maybe I'll only have to wait 5 years. http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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mdrag
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'01 3500 "BIG DOOLEY" DMAX/ALLISON PICTURES (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=mdrag)<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>2001 3500 LT Crew Cab/LB7 DMAX 6600/M74 Allison 1000 Series/4x4 G80/Light Pewter/Tan Leather<LI>12 Disc CD Changer/Escalade Steering Wheel Audio Controls/Pioneer TS-C1653 Component Speakers <LI>Kennedy Diesel Headlight Harness with 4 Lamp Mode/Dual Alts with PowerMaster 200A<LI>TransferFlow 56 gal tank w/Fast Fill fillneck/ROSTRA Obstacle Sensing System<LI>Roll-N-Lock Retractable Bed Cover with Carbon Fiber Pattern/TracRac Sliding Rack System<LI>Clifford AvantGaurd4 Alarm with Remote Start/SmartWindows4/Computer Interface for MS Windows/Turbo Timer Option<LI>SPA DG-111 Digital Boost & EGT Gauge/PIAA Airdam/PIAA 80 Pro XT Driving & 959 Fog Lights<LI>DTA Corp Running Boards & Mudflaps/Line-X/Invinca-Shield/Center Console Mods<LI>Lucerix X-Mount Mirrors/Tekonsha Prodigy/Goodrich Velvet-Ride Shackles<LI>Future Mods Include: Alcoas, Performance Module.... etc.
[/list]

[This message has been edited by mdrag (edited 01-05-2002).]

Mic
07-23-2002, 19:47
Autotap released version 2.1 :D