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D-max Man
09-07-2005, 06:22
LBZ engine specs from Chevrolet website: http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/specifications/

Horse power = 360 @ 3200
(with avail. Allison trans. beginning late fall 2005) 300/224 @ 3000 (standard)

Torque = 650 @ 1600
(with avail. Allison trans. beginning late fall 2005) 520/702 @ 1600 (standard)

GCVW = 23,500 With Allison trans - 22,000 for the 6-speed manual

[ 09-07-2005, 06:36 AM: Message edited by: D-max Man ]

soot
09-08-2005, 19:56
My local Chevy dealer called me today, & said that GM is now accepting LBZ orders. I drove an '06 LLY with the 6-speed Allison. Very nice. Now I can't wait to drive an '06 with the LBZ.

super_sport_55
09-09-2005, 02:01
why cant they beef up the manual? is this just a ploy to sale more autos?

D-max Man
09-09-2005, 02:07
They can't employ "Torque management" with the manual trans.

mark45678
09-09-2005, 13:58
They can't employ "Torque management" with the manual trans.


they dont need to with juice ;) Like the lly with the current 5 speed auto the peek power may only be on tap in 2nd 3rd, 4th gear.... 1st and 5th cant handle all the power! :mad:

D-max Man
09-12-2005, 07:15
Here are the specs for the 2006 Powerstroke according to The official Ford website:
325 hp @ 3,300 rpm
570 lb-ft of torque @ 2,000 rpm

Here are the 2006 Cummins Numbers from the official Dodge website:
610 pounds-feet of torque at 1,600 RPM
325 horsepower at 2,900 RPM

Jim Brzozowski
09-12-2005, 08:31
I think GM is probably using engine dyno figures, not RW figures. Remember they said the LB7 was 300 hp when in fact only pulled about 240-250 RWHP, in the real world. I wouldn't get too excieted about the numbers until someone actually rear wheel tests some of them.

rjschoolcraft
09-12-2005, 08:50
All advertised HP numbers from the manufacturers are at the crankshaft...not at the rear wheels. Chassis dyno numbers measured at the wheels will be lower. However, 360 HP and 650 lb-ft at the crank is huge...especially compared to the competition! ;)

SLT556
09-12-2005, 15:16
I think Ford is really F'ed by this. They invested in tooling up for the torque shift tranny as opposed to out sourcing, so it think it would cost them quite a bit to change it to a six speed, which GM has already done. Now they are blown out of the water in HP/TQ. It will be very interesting to see how they respond. I think they got some serious cost constraints here.

iljusin
09-12-2005, 18:48
Is 650lb-ft available in all gears (or at least in 2-5)?

Jim Cobler
09-13-2005, 08:31
I read the specs. in the web site shown above and unless I am really confused it showed 6 qts. of oil on the new engine. Can this be correct?

Jim

SLT556
09-13-2005, 15:54
Looks like all of the lubricating capacities are screwed up.