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Chris ..was that your 99 Superduty in the competition?Nice looking truck there man!:D That looks like a cool test and I love Montana's scenery alot.However, my truck is a manual and it wouldn't be fair to have to shift.Let's see the test with a 30ft. gooseneck loaded with iron go up the hill and test manual trans trucks in their own competition..bumper pull trailers are interesting to say the least;)
I watched your video. Well, that Duramax had surely some cooling issues. Said that, he started already off in the beginnig with a pretty hot engine and complains that he can't keep up with the truck.
The boardcomputer will reduce power when the engine is hot like that. I could read that on his display. No wonder why the Dodge walked away... funny thing is he always says his coolant temps and that the engine is hot, bla bla bla... the dodge is walking away, bla bla bla engine is still hot and dinging like crazy, but doesn't say anything about the reduced power.
Second thing, his truck went into a limp mode (not enough fuel pressure in the rail). Look at his tank! Its bone dry. the pump probably sucked some air going up or downhill.
That was done a few years ago. A Big Tex gooseneck with 16,270 lb. of lumber was pulled up the hill. Guess what...the Duramax won that too.
If you read the article, there was a 1996 Dodge manual that competed last year. It's interesting that you are talking a lot, but find all kinds of reasons not to enter your truck in the competition. The Pull-Off has been going on for seven years now and is a good way to compare trucks. Everyone pulls the same trailer on the same hill.
Yes, that is my truck, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummnz
The scenery is awesome! Your truck would do fine, you may have a little slower ET but your top speed at the mile would be generally uneffected. Many manual trans. have run the hill, as Big Ron pointed out there was one last year.
A heavier trailer just means slower times, the power differential would still remain the same, 10,000lbs on a 6% grade from a dead stop is pretty heavy!
If you come, it would give you a more complete understanding of what it takes to be competitive reguardless of brand.
Its amazing to watch trucks that make over 500hp run the hill!
Chris
Hey Cummnz,
Where did you find the year of the Dodge?? I've been everywhere I can think of and can't find reference to the Dodge's year:confused: ... I don't remember TxChis saying in the video... but I fell asleep between milemarker 475 and 500!!:D:rolleyes: Do you have any links to this info??
My 2WD, Manual Tranny D-max held the stocker crown in the pull-off for quite awhile . . .until the stock D/As grew another gear and several more HP. As a 2002 is didn't have any cooling problems . . .infact it didn't even engage the fan clutch until 2 miles up the grade . . . Toughguy was riding shotgun on my second attempt, when I learned that even stock the D-max can overwhelm the clutch if you're mean enough to it. I let a little of the smoke out of the original clutch, but it sure cured the clutch chatter in reverse problem I'd had up to then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummnz
On a differnt day I pulled the 28' 5th wheel up I-70 west of Denver . . . it was 103 degrees in Denver and 90 at the tunnels . . .went all the way up at the speed limit with the A/C blowing hard . . . the fan was singing most of the time but the temp never budged.
I still hardly see manual trans trucks VS. auto trucks a fair race as far as time is concerned, i'd like to see a manual only class.
Baker2Acre:I did mention that I knew the Dodge in that video was BETWEEN a certain year range.By the factory wheels that are on it,and cab design with the quad cab I can spot those years {late 2000-2002 24v dodges} a mile away,trust me .Mine is a 98 the first year of the quad cab,last year of the old 12 valve motor,last year of the pull-out headlight switch and in late 99-2000 they swapped over to the newer style factory rims like this truck had on.:D <--sorry I know waaaay too much about the certain factory options dodge has lol:p
Change the rules?? Handicap?? That would defeat the purpose. Run what you brung. Although it can be competitive, it is not necessarily a competition. It is a comparison, with a focus on comparing what the big 3 have to offer year after year. If you read the article, you'd see that. There's no trophy for the winner, and no disgrace for the loser. "I can't keep up because I have a manual" is just an excuse. If they (manuals) are so inferior, why are they popular, or even available?
A competent handshaker has no problem keeping up with autos, even at the track.
You make many assumptions and conclusions based on unknowns. Unless you know more than what you are telling us, there's no way you can make such an assumption about a vehicle you know nothing about. Things aren't always what they seem. People change wheels, etc. all the time. The year and power level of that Dodge is absolutely irrelevant, without seeing a scale ticket to go with it. I'm not questioning your knowledge of the Dodge trucks, just that you don't know, or aren't telling, about the vehicle in question. Don't read too much into it. It is what it is.
Thanks Cummnz...
I am aware of the model changes thru the years of the 2nd Gen as well.... but all of the model changes you mentioned, aside from the hairline of the Q-Cab eluded my eyes in the video... even with heavy pause action and zooming. The best I could figure was that it was no older then '98 and could not see the "24V" on the emblem or the wide slot wheels (or the headlight pull or turn switch for that matter;) ) to move it up through the ISB years.... thought maybe you saw it mentioned somewhere.
Maverick:To have a manual trans TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST TIME in anything IE: DRAG RACING,or see whose fastest up the mountain in this case IS a handicap sir, with an automatic you put it in drive and put it to the floor,you loose a TON of time and Boost in between shifts in a manual..and they are great NORMALLY, because most guys towing 10k or better up the grades in Montana are not racing anyone, they are trying to get the load delivered safely and efficiently;) A run what you brung would be ok, but there's NO ONE that can hang with an automatic, they will win everytime out.:cool: BTW:The dodge in question in that video, I swear on whatever you want me to swear on I am not affiliated with them or ever saw that truck in my life..but I am curious now what if anything was done to it.
Baker2Acre:Pause the video and look at the wheels reallllly close and you will see the difference in style from the 99 or older wheels.I am 100% confident the truck is a 2000+ model.;)
Only if you don't know how to shift...;)
sorry I don't feel like speed shifting my NV4500 with 400k miles on it..that wouldn't be so great for the roadways of Montana.;)
Open minded Cummins guy here. I would love to do that competition ... er uh comparison. I really love that stuff. Not to try to win, but just to participate and hang out with other diesel lovers.
Mine's a 6 speed 4X4, very mildly bombed. It sounds like a heck of a long drive from Alabama, just to tote a trailer up a hill. And I'm already starting to slip my clutch, so I might be a bit skeered about that. Would there be anyway to get my fuel to/from Montana subsidized, in order to get a manual tranny Cummins in the picture? :D
I'm gonna go back and look on like the 2nd page and see if there was a link to the Montana pull-off. If not, somebody shoot me a link. Thanks.
P.S. - Shoooot, I just previewed my post and saw my signature. That's old, same truck though. Will have to update and remove some of the extra junk.
- JyRO
There is your link....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tough Guy
Its a long way for you to come, but many other travel from great distance as well, Kennedy drives from Wisconsin, Ronniejoe, Indiana and Ken Florey and Moudry come from the west coast. plus many others from around the country...
There are many things to see and do here in Montana, several parks, Glacier and Yellowstone and all the sights in-between! You would have a great time and being with other Diesel enthusiasts is always fun.
Chris
http://inlinediesel.com/deathmatch/
Just a joke guys, don't get too ticked off lol..maybe it will make a few of you laugh a little..pretty good imagination though.:D
Now that there's funny.....I don't care who y'are.....
Here we see the only way the Dodge can win!:D
The inferno that consumed the Duramax is the magnesuim front diff catching aflame and it burns like hell. Too bad that was a nice Chevy trying with all its guts to out pull that big bad Dodge. Guess I'd better look for a used Ram for a work truck to save my LBZ before it goes out in a blaze of glory.
My LB7 would have run away from both of them pulling my 14K road loaded 5er.
Denny
Know where there's some documentation on this? If it was a court suit there's got to be a public record somewhere. I'd like to take a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cummnz