OilGuard Bypass Filter

**Tsckey** · 02-12-2003, 20:18

Awhile back jbplock posted a question whether anyone was using an OilGuard bypass filter. I don't think he got an answer, but I have the same question. I've read many posts from happy users on other sites but not here. I'm aware of the Amsoil bypass filters, Filtersolutions, Gulf Coast and some others, but would like to get some first hand info on the OilGuard set up. Right now I'm waffling between that and the Amsoil.

Thanks,

TC

jbplock · 02-13-2003, 04:43

TC,

I was very close to trying the OilGuard but decided to wait and see what JK comes up with. His products are always top shelf. The AMSOIL bypass is OK except I prefer a solution that still uses the OEM full flow filter.
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LanduytG · 02-13-2003, 14:06

jbplock

The Amsoil BMK-11 will work great on the Dmax and simple to plumb. The brackert that i am having made for the fuel filter will double as a mount for the BMK-11. The supply will come from the oil filter housing and return will be via a banjo fitting on the pan. The banjo is very low profile and can be used as a drain plug as well. I will try to post a pic later so you can see what it looks like.

Greg

**a bear** · 02-14-2003, 10:51

Bill,
I recieved an info pack from Filtration Solutions World Wide. It comes with all the info.; oil analysis reports From 3 different 3rd party companies and a detailed video presentation. I am done viewing the information. It looks very impressive. If you would like you can e-mail your address and I will mail you the pack. These filters are becoming popular with the new EGR diesel PU trucks to control soot. Some of the Ford dealerships have started stocking these for installation on the new PS diesels at the request of some of the owners. Not hear say as I spoke to one myself.
PS Whats going on with the Oil Guard filt?

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**biglouieky** · 02-14-2003, 11:18

I also got the package from Filtration Solutions. The video was amazing to watch! The only problem is the price of the system for the Duramax. They quoted me 429.00 plus 15 dollars for shipping.

**JustWondering** · 02-14-2003, 11:59

Hey a bear & biglouieky,

I purchased one of the first Filtration Solutions By-pass filters for the Duramax a while back. I was very impressed with the quality and heavy duty built of the unit. However, I never did install the filter, (procrastinating, lack of time, etc,etc) Seeing you guys write about this filter, makes me want to install it over the weekend but I think I lost the instructions. Does the video you guys are writting about include installation instructions?

**biglouieky** · 02-14-2003, 14:10

JustWondering
THe video just shows how the filter system works against other filters. The only install info on their website is Ford F250 and John Deere.Phone number for them is 1-888-440-9056

**TraceF** · 02-14-2003, 14:19

At the risk of another 300 post forum- why bypass? What are you trying to solve or avoid?

**biglouieky** · 02-14-2003, 16:42

engine oil fuzzies!!

**a bear** · 02-14-2003, 16:51

Trace,
First bear with me as I am no expert on lubrication and oil additives. However in my line of work I do get to realize the benefits of bypass filtration, both centrifugal and filters. And IMHO THEY WORK.
My reason for bypassing are for much of the same reasons we are looking for 2 micron particle removal for the fuel system. By removing particles in the 3-25 micron range we are able to reduce a large amt. of the particulate causing ware of our engines. Also with the elevated EGR temps of the newer diesel engines (especially with performance chips) an increased amt. of soot is generated which causes an increased chance of acid formations/erosion/pitting. A quality bypass filter will remove a large amt. of these soot particles and acid causing water which will then free up the oil additives to continue their work suspending solids and reducing sludge and acid formation etc. The end result is a cleaner/healthier/longer lasting engine, not to mention that warm fuzzy feeling. The extra oil capacity is also a plus.

Even with the mentioned benefits of by-pass filtration I still change my DINO oil @ the recommended intervals of 5-7K.

Judging from your previous posts I know you knew this already. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

JustWondering,
The instructions are not included with the info. I think you can call the 1-888 number posted above and obtain instructions specific to the Duramax.

God bless the USA. [img]smile.gif[/img]

**TraceF** · 02-14-2003, 17:10

Relative to this subject my opinion can be stated in one word- overkill.

IF, 5-7k interval and CI lube you can drive this DMax easily 250k and probably more like 400k miles provided the other systems all are serviced and maintained, cooling, etc. Don't forget the IF 'cause this is where a lot of people will let slide and that's a bad thing. As you say, in this application- dino is good.

Bypass filters are like Todd says- KOOL. But unless the elements are significantly (and I mean SIGNIFICANTLY) better you are not gaining much.

Show me the significantly better filtration evidence and I will buy in.

Oh geez- here comes another 300 posts, I can just FEEL IT.

Kennedy · 02-14-2003, 17:26

Results? It'll happen soon enough...

Seriously though, having a super fine filter helps remove much of the small stuff that a full flow filter cannot get. If one were to run a 2 micron full flow it would plug quickly, and/or restrict flow. While Our oil may LOOK relatively clean, there is a lot of soot in it. The media I have chosen does an excellent job of absorbing this soot.

**biglouieky** · 02-14-2003, 17:29

seeing is believing---order free video from www.fs2500.com

**TraceF** · 02-14-2003, 17:33

John- in my view this will be more complicated than fuel filtering.

I'm not sure I have the tenacity.

When you all decide on the fuel filter and oil filter, somebody e-mail me please.

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PS biglouieky- This ain't one of them run the engine a hundred miles with no oil type videos is it? When I try to go check the credentials of swri.org I get "Page cannot be found".

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I take it back- I'm in. You got the video?

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**biglouieky** · 02-14-2003, 17:51

Trace
Like John said--a lot of soot gets by any full -flow filter. The video just shows how a by-pass system really cleans up oil that just passed through a new stock full-flow filter. They put carbon black powder in oil to make the visual statement.

**JustWondering** · 02-14-2003, 18:56

a bear ~ biglouieky, thanks for the info. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

**RVGuy** · 02-14-2003, 20:41

TraceF,

You know, there might be some folks out there, like myself, who simply enjoy modifying and improving their truck. Not every mod has a return on its money. In fact, very few mods do.

But I would enjoy knowing that I have an oil filtration system that is removes the smallest of particles. Call it piece of mind.

If one really looks at it, it would be hard to justify any of the mods I've made to my truck. Does that stop me? NOPE!!

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**a bear** · 02-16-2003, 03:24

Trace,
You can rest easy. I don't think were at the risk of another 300 post forum here, although I enjoy sharing information with friends. Good solutions usually result. The reason for the large amt. of posts on fuel filtering is simple. We all seek a solution that would extend the life of our $6500 (23000 PSI)injection system. It has also become my top priority at this time. I'm not going to continue to beat that familiar drum now because I have made a desision to go with the Mega filter when it's available. My decision - because I like the size for longer service, system pulsation dampening,low diff. and low AV for better filtering efficiency. Also as JK pointed out I have no doubt that smaller particles will find their way between those untorqued post threads W/O a positive seal. Remember a spin on does not torque at the threads. Also the water shedding lining JK mentioned was also another plus to reinforce my decision. Well, enough on that allready.
Getting back to the topic at hand, I have to say that I disagree with your opinion on the oil bypass filter. First of all it is not more complicated than our fuel filtering situation, nor is it just KOOL looking. It's very inexpensive, easy to install, maintain and you definitely see results. If you would still like to see the significatly better filtration evidence as you mentioned I would be more than happy to provide you with more than you would care to read. I can supply oil sample results and evidence of 99.7% avg. uptime with loads running as high as 97% of rated HP and overhauls extended as much as 80% beyond factory recommendations. We are currently running bypass filters on Waukesha, Caterpillar, Detroit and Solar Turbine engines. If you would like I can also send PICs of the bypass filters as they are pulled so you can see what a fullflow filter misses.(not so KOOL looking) I will do this as a favor to you. I'm not saying I can't run 250K or more W/O a BP filter but as much as I like this truck theres a good chance I may want to continue running it a while longer. Then my friend this would have been a KOOL filter. As far as the investment goes, I consider it life long as it can be used on several vehicles in the future. Also I agree that this setup is not for every one. Depends on how long someone plans to keep their vehicle, how fast they accumulate miles or for many other reasons. Its for the individuals to decide whats right for them.
In closing, the one thing I can say is that the reason I will not comment about something I have not tried or am sure about is because I wouldn't want to have the guilt of misleading anyone. Any I hear short of that I consider hear say and take it as just that.

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**TraceF** · 02-16-2003, 11:11

a bear-

Many if not most of you are obviously far more experienced and far more knowledgable than I am on these matters. I do have some relative experience in the lubricants industry though.

On the bigger front, a "newbie" coming into the DP forums to learn and communicate (seek information) about the Duramax 6.6 gets the impression that without better fuel filtration the DMax could and probably will suffer injector failure before 100k miles and in some illustrated cases as soon as 12 or 15k miles.

Further, one could conclude the same fear that without better lubrication filtering the DMax engine will wear out much sooner.

I gotta tell you, I feel really sorry for the 99.8% of the consumers that bought these trucks and will never know these potential problems exist.

I understand that diesel engine oil gets soot in it. Today's additive packages are designed to deal with soot, varnish, acids, water, and all other cranckcase related oil degredation issues better than ever before and the advances in base stock quality allows these additive packages to be more stable (helps them last longer) than ever before.

I agree with fuel filtration although I am not as concerned about the injector issue as some of you seem to be.

I agree with good lubricants filtration.

The basic point I have been making in several different forums is that with the right maintenance intervals and the correct lubricants, coolants, filters, etc. these trucks can and I submit will prove out to be completely capable of 250 to 400 thousand miles of operation without a major failure.

Sure, this can be improved on, no doubt about that. I just don't think these problems are as critical as they seem to be perceived by some of you.

No harm, no foul. [img]smile.gif[/img]

**TraceF** · 02-16-2003, 12:12

On this subject- here is an interesting link:

http://p2library.nfesc.navy.mil/P2_O...ok/6_II_1.html

Sorry if it has already been posted.

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