OK guys here goes. This is an experiment. If they don't show up in my sig, try this. That first l looks like a 1 but it's not it's an l(L), Kev http://www.ldphotostation.com/viewal...A36777&album=0
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OK guys here goes. This is an experiment. If they don't show up in my sig, try this. That first l looks like a 1 but it's not it's an l(L), Kev http://www.ldphotostation.com/viewal...A36777&album=0
'02 GMC Sierra SLT 3500 4WD D/A CC Black/Graphite (Totally Impressed with this Truck!!!) Pulls a 24' Sooner Goosneck Cattle Trailer w/a 30,000lb Draw-Tite Flush Mount Remove-a-Ball Trailer Hitch & Hayes Lemmerz Syncronizer Brake Controller
Mods So Far: Edge Juice, 4.61 HOT!!!,BD XMonitor, 4" Magnaflow Stainless Steel Exhaust w/5" S/S Tip, AFE Air Intake Snorkel, 3" Front Suspension Torsion Bar Levelling Kit, Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85's, Bilstein Shocks F&R, Firestone Ride-Rite Air Helper Springs with in-cab Dual Air Command, Correctrack 1 3/4" Dually Spacers,F&R Centramatic Wheel Balancers, BD Exhaust Brake, Howes Fuel Additive, J&J S/S Millenium Running Boards w/lights, J&J S/S Headache Rack & Rails, J&J Lighted Grab Handles, Manik S/S Tail-Light Guards, GoRhino 7000 series S/S Brush Guard, PIAA Halogen Driving Lights, Lund Sun Visor, Cloud Rider F&R Mudflaps, S/S Door Handle and Tailgate Inserts, Style-Line S/S Wheel Inserts, Auto Ventshade Bugflector II, Auto Ventshade F&R Window Ventvisors, All Star Under Rail Box Liner, Duratrunk Tool Box, Catch-All F&R Floormats, Sportwing Chrome-Bolt Graphics across doors & dually fenders.
Just another "Farm Truck"
CanadaKev,
Tires and wheels look great! How did you get the rear of your dually to sit so level?
I'm going to move this topic to the 2500HD/3500 ACCESSORIES forum.
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damn.. that looks f'n mint. thanks for the pics.
nick leinonen<br /><br />current ride - 2003 ram 1500 quad shortie 4.7 hand shaker - <a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/nickleinonen\" target=\"_blank\">pictures</a>
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CanadaKev,
A couple of questions,
Did you have to use a spacer for the wheels in the back?
Did it require front end mods so the tires did not hit?
How much did affect your speedo?
I am not worried about calibrating necessarily but I know the Allsion might need it for proper shifting.
Truck looks Great. Thanks for the Pics
Regards<p>Jeff<p>2001 K3500 4x4<br />Duramax/Allison<br />Crew Cab<br />Long Bed<br />G80 rear<br />Victory Red<br />Gray Leather
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mdrag,
Sorry for posting this in the wrong place. I'll try and be more heads up next time. "How did I get rear of dually to sit so level?" Don't exactly know what you mean. Side to side, it naturally sits level with an almost empty tank. With a full tank the left side sits 1" lower than the right side. I didn't make any adjustments from stock.
01_Duramax_Dually,
Yes I had to use the spacers with these tires. Empty I have 2" Between the squat on an 1 3/4" spacer. So if I never put a load in it I would probably be fine, but pulling a 20,000lb goose-neck I would have a constant bond that would create too much heat and likely blow tires.
'Modify front end?'
Because of the mudflaps on the front(which are screwed to the inside of of the fender well and are 1/4" thick) I get some rubbing on the left side at full crank to the right and going over uneven ground. I am going to attempt a 3" body lift on this truck that should alleviate that problem. I don't want to take the mudflaps off.
These tires put my speedo out by 8.5%, which lowers my rpm's and it should burn less fuel.
Kev
'02 GMC Sierra SLT 3500 4WD D/A CC Black/Graphite (Totally Impressed with this Truck!!!) Pulls a 24' Sooner Goosneck Cattle Trailer w/a 30,000lb Draw-Tite Flush Mount Remove-a-Ball Trailer Hitch & Hayes Lemmerz Syncronizer Brake Controller
Mods So Far: Edge Juice, 4.61 HOT!!!,BD XMonitor, 4" Magnaflow Stainless Steel Exhaust w/5" S/S Tip, AFE Air Intake Snorkel, 3" Front Suspension Torsion Bar Levelling Kit, Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85's, Bilstein Shocks F&R, Firestone Ride-Rite Air Helper Springs with in-cab Dual Air Command, Correctrack 1 3/4" Dually Spacers,F&R Centramatic Wheel Balancers, BD Exhaust Brake, Howes Fuel Additive, J&J S/S Millenium Running Boards w/lights, J&J S/S Headache Rack & Rails, J&J Lighted Grab Handles, Manik S/S Tail-Light Guards, GoRhino 7000 series S/S Brush Guard, PIAA Halogen Driving Lights, Lund Sun Visor, Cloud Rider F&R Mudflaps, S/S Door Handle and Tailgate Inserts, Style-Line S/S Wheel Inserts, Auto Ventshade Bugflector II, Auto Ventshade F&R Window Ventvisors, All Star Under Rail Box Liner, Duratrunk Tool Box, Catch-All F&R Floormats, Sportwing Chrome-Bolt Graphics across doors & dually fenders.
Just another "Farm Truck"
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CanadaKev,
I'm shouting here ....... "NICE" ...... Looks dam good ........
Level ..... Front to back ..... Mine even with four crank's on the T-Bars still sits nose down ....... How magically did you do it?
Them spacers make a big'ole gap .... Well, it looks that way in the PICS .......
I like it . Nothing should be little on these trucks .. WERE "KING" OF THE ROAD ... After all ........Us Big dually guy's .....
Looking forward to the arrival of my spacers next week ....... I opted for the alum ...... I'm trying to lighten the load ..... It's a go fast thing .... Trying to spread them HP'S & TQ'S around...
....... MAC.......
[ 05-31-2002: Message edited by: mackin ]</p>
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mdrag & mac,
Level front to back? It sits high in the back almost 3", same as all these trucks. Pics must be an optical illusion [img]smile.gif[/img]
I haven't touched the torsion bars yet.
Mac,
I know, big gap, and yours is gonna be bigger.
If I'm successful with the 3" body lift I might even try 285's on 'er. I've got 285's on my '94 Burb with a body lift, and I like 'em. Although with 285's I would have to get at least 8" wheels, and I'm not quite ready to shell out the $$$.
'02 GMC Sierra SLT 3500 4WD D/A CC Black/Graphite (Totally Impressed with this Truck!!!) Pulls a 24' Sooner Goosneck Cattle Trailer w/a 30,000lb Draw-Tite Flush Mount Remove-a-Ball Trailer Hitch & Hayes Lemmerz Syncronizer Brake Controller
Mods So Far: Edge Juice, 4.61 HOT!!!,BD XMonitor, 4" Magnaflow Stainless Steel Exhaust w/5" S/S Tip, AFE Air Intake Snorkel, 3" Front Suspension Torsion Bar Levelling Kit, Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85's, Bilstein Shocks F&R, Firestone Ride-Rite Air Helper Springs with in-cab Dual Air Command, Correctrack 1 3/4" Dually Spacers,F&R Centramatic Wheel Balancers, BD Exhaust Brake, Howes Fuel Additive, J&J S/S Millenium Running Boards w/lights, J&J S/S Headache Rack & Rails, J&J Lighted Grab Handles, Manik S/S Tail-Light Guards, GoRhino 7000 series S/S Brush Guard, PIAA Halogen Driving Lights, Lund Sun Visor, Cloud Rider F&R Mudflaps, S/S Door Handle and Tailgate Inserts, Style-Line S/S Wheel Inserts, Auto Ventshade Bugflector II, Auto Ventshade F&R Window Ventvisors, All Star Under Rail Box Liner, Duratrunk Tool Box, Catch-All F&R Floormats, Sportwing Chrome-Bolt Graphics across doors & dually fenders.
Just another "Farm Truck"
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CanadaKev,
Those tires look great on the truck. I have been looking at the Discoverer S/T in 255/85 as a replacement for the lame firestones. You are the first guy on here running those tires that I am aware of. They look like they fall in between an AT and a MT. How is the ride and noise level compared to the firestones? I hope y'all don't mind someone whose truck only has 4 tires crashing the party.
\'01 2500HD D/A CC SWB 4X4<br />Plain old white<br />Linex Bedliner<br />Husky Liners/Mudflaps<br />Kennedy\'s Headlight Harness<br />Black Westin WTW bars<br />255/85 Trxus MT\'s<br />GO HOGS plate on front
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SWLA,
Sure we'll let ya in with only 4 pieces o' rubber. I'm not prejudice(as long as your drivin' a Chevy) [img]smile.gif[/img] You guys down there get firestones off the line? I thought we were bad with our Goodyears. The Wrangler A/T is not that bad a tire, it's just that 215's are way too small for a truck this size.(just my opinion)
You're right, the Discoverer S/T is a cross between an A/T & an M/T, and the highway noise puts it right between the two. I don't mind it. Sounds aggressive the way a truck should sound. It also rides pretty firm, but I am running max air(65lbs). If I dropped them down to 50lbs it would soften up the ride a bit. Depends what you like. Everyone has their own taste. Kev
'02 GMC Sierra SLT 3500 4WD D/A CC Black/Graphite (Totally Impressed with this Truck!!!) Pulls a 24' Sooner Goosneck Cattle Trailer w/a 30,000lb Draw-Tite Flush Mount Remove-a-Ball Trailer Hitch & Hayes Lemmerz Syncronizer Brake Controller
Mods So Far: Edge Juice, 4.61 HOT!!!,BD XMonitor, 4" Magnaflow Stainless Steel Exhaust w/5" S/S Tip, AFE Air Intake Snorkel, 3" Front Suspension Torsion Bar Levelling Kit, Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85's, Bilstein Shocks F&R, Firestone Ride-Rite Air Helper Springs with in-cab Dual Air Command, Correctrack 1 3/4" Dually Spacers,F&R Centramatic Wheel Balancers, BD Exhaust Brake, Howes Fuel Additive, J&J S/S Millenium Running Boards w/lights, J&J S/S Headache Rack & Rails, J&J Lighted Grab Handles, Manik S/S Tail-Light Guards, GoRhino 7000 series S/S Brush Guard, PIAA Halogen Driving Lights, Lund Sun Visor, Cloud Rider F&R Mudflaps, S/S Door Handle and Tailgate Inserts, Style-Line S/S Wheel Inserts, Auto Ventshade Bugflector II, Auto Ventshade F&R Window Ventvisors, All Star Under Rail Box Liner, Duratrunk Tool Box, Catch-All F&R Floormats, Sportwing Chrome-Bolt Graphics across doors & dually fenders.
Just another "Farm Truck"
CanadaKev,
I was referring to the front to back level - in most of your pics, it appears that your truck doesn't have the standard 3500 rear up/nose down stance.
A closer look at one of your pics shows a slope to the driveway - and it makes your truck look level front to rear. The sloping driveway is not obvious in all the pics.
I was hoping you had found 'the answer'...
I have two questions about the spacers:
1)Is the spacer hub centered on the inside mounting surface?
2) How does the ouside dual wheel line up with the spacer - hub centered or by the studs?
LOOKS GREAT !
You are right these trucks should never come with 215's. Thanks for the pictures, it looks like I will be making the switch to the 255's now. Oh well it's only money, atleast thats what I keep telling myself.
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for those dually owners that are trying to "one up" each other, interco makes a 35x10.50x16 ssr tire that can be massaged onto a 6" wheel. hmm. 6" lift, and 7 35x10.50x16's and you'll be king of the hill, for a little while [until someone does the sus. lift + body lift and some 36" or 38" michelins xml or xzl or some denman 305/85/16's] lol!!
nick leinonen<br /><br />current ride - 2003 ram 1500 quad shortie 4.7 hand shaker - <a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/nickleinonen\" target=\"_blank\">pictures</a>
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mdrag,
Answer to ?#1- yes
?#2 The spacer has its own studs. The outside wheel is centered by the studs but there is still a bit of play. I put on 4 nuts and just snugged them up a bit. Lifted the rear end right of the ground and put her in gear. Just let the wheels spin at an idle. You can use anything to put up against the side of the wheel, close to the bottom of the rim to see if it is running true. Once you are satisfied that the wheel is turning true tighten up all the lug nuts and check it again. To me, this is the weak spot in the system. It's up to the lug nuts to hold the wheel on center. I'm tempted to try and have a shim made so the wheel could be in contact with the hub, via the shim. Thus using the hub to center the wheel.
Nick,
Sounds to me like you've almost got yourself talked in to buying a D-Max Dually [img]smile.gif[/img]
Right now your just living out your fantasies through the rest of us [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]
I would love to install a suspension lift and put on big honkin' rubber, But from a practical standpoint I would have a hang of a time trying to hitch up the cattle trailer and keep it relatively level
[ 06-02-2002: Message edited by: CanadaKev ]</p>
'02 GMC Sierra SLT 3500 4WD D/A CC Black/Graphite (Totally Impressed with this Truck!!!) Pulls a 24' Sooner Goosneck Cattle Trailer w/a 30,000lb Draw-Tite Flush Mount Remove-a-Ball Trailer Hitch & Hayes Lemmerz Syncronizer Brake Controller
Mods So Far: Edge Juice, 4.61 HOT!!!,BD XMonitor, 4" Magnaflow Stainless Steel Exhaust w/5" S/S Tip, AFE Air Intake Snorkel, 3" Front Suspension Torsion Bar Levelling Kit, Cooper Discoverer S/T 255/85's, Bilstein Shocks F&R, Firestone Ride-Rite Air Helper Springs with in-cab Dual Air Command, Correctrack 1 3/4" Dually Spacers,F&R Centramatic Wheel Balancers, BD Exhaust Brake, Howes Fuel Additive, J&J S/S Millenium Running Boards w/lights, J&J S/S Headache Rack & Rails, J&J Lighted Grab Handles, Manik S/S Tail-Light Guards, GoRhino 7000 series S/S Brush Guard, PIAA Halogen Driving Lights, Lund Sun Visor, Cloud Rider F&R Mudflaps, S/S Door Handle and Tailgate Inserts, Style-Line S/S Wheel Inserts, Auto Ventshade Bugflector II, Auto Ventshade F&R Window Ventvisors, All Star Under Rail Box Liner, Duratrunk Tool Box, Catch-All F&R Floormats, Sportwing Chrome-Bolt Graphics across doors & dually fenders.
Just another "Farm Truck"
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CanadaKev, The truck looks KILLER. Great job.
Oneton
94 6.5 TD Rocky Ridge conversion
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2002 3500HD Pewter/lt grey interior Crew Cab 4x4 LT Durmax/Allison
CanadaKev,
Thanks for the explanation.
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Nick,
I have been toying with the idea of doing the lift and mounting narrow 35" tires. I beleive that the 35x10.50 Swampers are only availible for a 15" rim.
The problem with the Super Swapers, I had 36" swampers on a 4x4 F350 Crew Cab Single wheel, is the poor mileage and speed ratings on those tires.
I think the first blowout, literally, came at 80 mph after about 8,000 miles.
All of the tires were completely done, no tread, after about 18,000 miles.
Anyway, I can't really do anything in that regard until I find a set of 16x8 dually wheels.
SoCal
[ 06-03-2002: Message edited by: SoCalDieselNewbie ]</p>
2002 Chevrolet 3500 4x4 Crew Cab LT w/ Duramax & Allison in Charcoal Grey with custom Mud Accents
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if you go to interco's web site ---> http://www.intercotire.com/html/ssr_series.htm <--- you can see on the the ssr site that they now have a 35x10.50x16 that is out now or coming out very soon...
if i had a dually, i don't think i would do what i was dreaming or in my post above. i would do the 255/85/16 with spacers or then some 245/70/19.5 goodyear g124's and some app or alcoa wheels [the alcoa's are suppose to be coming soon] in a 19.5"x 6.75". or if not the alloy wheels, have stockton make up a set..
nick leinonen<br /><br />current ride - 2003 ram 1500 quad shortie 4.7 hand shaker - <a href=\"http://community.webshots.com/user/nickleinonen\" target=\"_blank\">pictures</a>
NickLeinonen,
The future Alcoas you mention in 19.5" x 6.75" - will this be a direct bolt on 8 lug wheel?
I recently read a reference to 8 lug 19.5" Alcoas on another forum. I believe the poster was affiliated with www.ricksontruck.com , and indicated these new 19.5" Alcoas would be sold exclusively through Rickson, and he quoted a $4k price for a complete alum 19.5" package with wheels/tires/mounting/balancing (didn't specify, but I suspect two steel inner duals/4 alum)...I called Rickson and they confirmed the addition of Alcoa made wheels sometime...
The 16" Alcoa Hotshots for our trucks have been delayed many times...I've been checking on them since 09/01, and the latest is maybe 07/02...
There are adapters available to go from 8 lug to 10 lug, then you can use 19.5" 10 lug Alcoas currently on the market. You can run 2 Alcoas per dual if you like, since the adapters are machined with a wide enough lip to accept two aluminun wheels. The adapters and both rear duals maintain the hub piloted mounting with this set up.
The APP wheels are another option, if you like their styling. However, it has been mentioned that APP does not sell a steel wheel, so if you use 2 APP wheels per dual on the '01 3500s, the inner dual is hub piloted, and the outer dual is stud piloted. Also, I've heard the APP wheels run $500 each or more...
Lot's of $$$$ choices...
[ 06-03-2002: Message edited by: mdrag ]</p>
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CanadaKev,
Wow, should have checked back sooner ........ Why didn't you convert to the old style 60* conical self centering lug nuts? That is what I'll be running . Hopefully I will not have that problem. Doesn't sound to trust worthy the other way........ The ULTRA WHEELS I'm running require the conical set lugnut ....... There is no difference, that I noticed, from the lugnut seat of the old rims ,to the new ones. The only difference is the back spacing, because of the brake caliper ..... The older dually had a steel plate that went on prior to nuts. Easily had if needed ...... My spacers, will be in I hope this week, I'll NAY or HEY the are great, when I get them .......
MAC
PS: If you need nuts I got a link ..... If you got American denaros...... HE HEEEE [img]tongue.gif[/img]
[ 06-04-2002: Message edited by: mackin ]</p>
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CanadaKev,
I am running 285's on my truck and have No problems with rubbing. I use it for everything on and off road. I plan on putting 255's on my new truck because I want the better load rating. Here is a picture of the Grey Ghost.
http://www.fishingworks.com/Users/Us...s/99truck1.jpg
[ 06-04-2002: Message edited by: Ranger354 ]</p>
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