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    Default Simple and quick programmer / power adder

    I am looking for an inexpensive, quickly portable OBD-II port 'tuner' for my two LB7s. Code reading, clearing, tire size mods, etc. are as important as occasionally applying a 'hot' tune for a truck pull, then removing it for daily use.

    Hot Xcelerator or Duramaximizer are both available for cheap when purchased used. Hypertech and DiabloSport appear similar. Trying to decide. Any thoughts? Either one easier if stacked with propane for a truck pull - i.e. more aware of transmission slippage?

    (Don't worry JK, I know who to turn to for my LLY and LBZ...taking things in baby steps here so I can learn what the rest of you have learned over the last 5 years...)
    Last edited by Mark Rinker; 03-27-2006 at 13:37.
    2011 Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L daily driver
    • Previous owner of two 1994 6.5L K3500s, '01, '02, and '05 6.6L K2500s, '04 C4500, '06 K3500 dually, '06 K3500 SRW, '09 K3500HD SRW, '05 Denali
    • Total GM diesel miles to date : ~950K

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    The LB7 Predator and other programmers are tied to a particular VIN once a tune has been loaded onto a truck. This complicates selling a used programmer. PPE's programmer is useable on multiple trucks, as long as you restore the stock tune in the original vehicle's ECM before moving it to another. Predator's LLY programmer can be used on multiple trucks as well, as long as you restore the stock tune before attempting to use it on another truck. This is how they all should work.

    However, I believe most programmers can be used to read/reset codes on another truck (as long as it's LB7/LLY specific) without loading a tune. I know this works with the Bully Dog Power Pup and the Predator.

    Jim

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    Good to know. Having one that is easily portable for applying/removing tunes between both LB7's is a must. Now having two nearly identical LB7s will allow me to test the propane and other tunes side by side - both for average mileage and power.

    We are finishing up the gauge and propane install today. Has taken longer than expected as the truck has been very busy and hard to give up for even a day or two.

    More soon...I expect to be purging and filling the 22 gallon propane tank tomorrow, checking all fittings for leaks.

    We are doing some cool stuff with dash mounted indicators so you get a visual when the propane is flowing. The stock kit only has one red indicator for malfunction. We will have that plus yellow (tank pressure low, needs refilling) and green (propane is being injected...)

    Fun stuff!
    Last edited by Mark Rinker; 03-27-2006 at 14:49.
    2011 Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L daily driver
    • Previous owner of two 1994 6.5L K3500s, '01, '02, and '05 6.6L K2500s, '04 C4500, '06 K3500 dually, '06 K3500 SRW, '09 K3500HD SRW, '05 Denali
    • Total GM diesel miles to date : ~950K

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    EFI Live...
    Kennedy Diesel-owner
    More than just a salesman-I use and test the products that I sell on a daily basis!
    Superflow Lie Detector in house
    2002 Chev K2500HD D/A CC Long LT 11.77@ 124mph at 7700# fuel only-e.t. needs help
    2005 Chev K3500SRW D/A CC Long LT(SOLD)
    2007 Chev K2500 Classic EC Short LT (Sold)
    2012 GMC K3500SRW D/A CC Long LTZ Happy Birthday to me! Built 1 working day after my birthday and delivered 7 days later.
    2016 GMC K3500SRW D/A CC short LTZ

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    I know...and I will likely be over for a custom tune...but in the mean time I need to pick ONE just for diagnostics and tire sizes mods.

    Which one - just for the OBD-II features, if nothing else?
    2011 Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L daily driver
    • Previous owner of two 1994 6.5L K3500s, '01, '02, and '05 6.6L K2500s, '04 C4500, '06 K3500 dually, '06 K3500 SRW, '09 K3500HD SRW, '05 Denali
    • Total GM diesel miles to date : ~950K

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    EFI Live (requires PC or laptop) 1st choice

    Diablo Predator 2nd choice

    The Pred can be a bit slow on the uptake so I don't trust balance rates, but otherwise it is a good tool.
    Kennedy Diesel-owner
    More than just a salesman-I use and test the products that I sell on a daily basis!
    Superflow Lie Detector in house
    2002 Chev K2500HD D/A CC Long LT 11.77@ 124mph at 7700# fuel only-e.t. needs help
    2005 Chev K3500SRW D/A CC Long LT(SOLD)
    2007 Chev K2500 Classic EC Short LT (Sold)
    2012 GMC K3500SRW D/A CC Long LTZ Happy Birthday to me! Built 1 working day after my birthday and delivered 7 days later.
    2016 GMC K3500SRW D/A CC short LTZ

    Custom tuning in house using EFI Live tuning software!

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    Kennedy, I am really interested in purchasing the EFI live, the one question I have is can you achieve the same gains with that one package as you can with the programers, boxes, stacking, ect...or do you use it aswell as the others? (talkin lb7's)
    2003 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 4x4, Bully Dog Dyno Dominator 90 hp, Bully Dog Power Pup 155 hp, Duramaximizer, FASS 150gph fuel pump, Bully Dog Trans, K&N Intake, Bully Dog 4\" dual exhaust, Flex-A-Lite electric replacement fans.

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    Yes it can be done. Now how well the Average Joe does remains to be seen. I've had really good success with the program so far and have been doing tunes on an exchange basis.
    Kennedy Diesel-owner
    More than just a salesman-I use and test the products that I sell on a daily basis!
    Superflow Lie Detector in house
    2002 Chev K2500HD D/A CC Long LT 11.77@ 124mph at 7700# fuel only-e.t. needs help
    2005 Chev K3500SRW D/A CC Long LT(SOLD)
    2007 Chev K2500 Classic EC Short LT (Sold)
    2012 GMC K3500SRW D/A CC Long LTZ Happy Birthday to me! Built 1 working day after my birthday and delivered 7 days later.
    2016 GMC K3500SRW D/A CC short LTZ

    Custom tuning in house using EFI Live tuning software!

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