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    Default What is the best/safest programer/chip for LBZ

    Hi all,I am looking for something for towing heavy, but safe for engine and stock trans. What has been proven so far that has least or no issues ? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboywildbill
    Hi all,I am looking for something for towing heavy, but safe for engine and stock trans. What has been proven so far that has least or no issues ? Thanks

    I have had juice on my last 2 trucks , both had issues nothing big but my new lbz truck is going to get custom software.....maybe live EFI or a JK custom tune, havent pulled the trigger yet. I have read some good post on JK custom tow / econo tune. not huge numbers but the stock trans cant deal with big power ! my feeling is 70 hp is about the most a stock trans can handle with the LBZ , the older trucks 90 hp is about the ceiling.
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    With the stock hp and torque of the LBZ, why would you want to try and mess with it and risk losing your warranty? I for one don't plan on touching mine. It works fine just the way it is. Only normal maintenance for me. Ed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hale
    With the stock hp and torque of the LBZ, why would you want to try and mess with it and risk losing your warranty? I for one don't plan on touching mine. It works fine just the way it is. Only normal maintenance for me. Ed

    2 ecm's one stock one slightly warmed up... I will never tell the them !
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    Thanks, I just thought a little more would be nice,I do agree with Ed, it does pull great. And I should leave it alone. Our 07 LBZ pulls better than our 02 did w/edge set on level 2. But you know we always want more than we have.
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    I now have a KD custom tune installed...... It pulls as hard if not harder then my lly truck with juice set on 3 and its almost smoke free ! Runs smooth with just a slight "diesel" rattle when its makeing big power , so far its the best power adder I have had on any of my trucks. Thanks to John and the time spent developing this tune I think it will get slightly better fuel economy then stock .
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    Thanks Mark, Let me know how it does in the next few months. It sounds like it might be the way to go.
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    Talking JK live EFI tune ROCKS !

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboywildbill View Post
    Thanks Mark, Let me know how it does in the next few months. It sounds like it might be the way to go.


    Well I am not sure exactly how to put this .... I have owned 5 gm giesel trucks this 2006 lbz with JK's custom performance/tow tune flat out rips ! It will tow my 31' 9000+lbs holiday rambler up hill at 65 mph at 1600 rpm and not down shift from 6th gear. This past week I went out threw the Adirondeck mountains and the Birkshire mountains at 75 mph up hills with no issues or lack of power to spare ! To be honest with you Edge juice doesnt stand a chance in keeping up with this tune , the low end TQ is truely amazing to say the least ! Empty the truck is much quicker then even the hot juice I had on the LLY truck.

    I run a MBRP 4" cat back exhaust , a AFE drop in air filter and a Transgo Jr shift kit on my truck.... basicly its almost stock , there isnt many trucks or cars that can keep up to it if the turbo is spooled up. Zero black smoke , just a hint of gray smoke(almost looks like dust blowing around at the curb) . If I had it to do again to my older trucks Live EFI is the way to go but I think the key is JK has put a good amount of time getting this tune to work great ! Fuel economy on my 650 mile trip I did the math and show just over 1 MPG better then before the ECm swap ( 11.4 MPG towing at 70~75 MPH in the hills) . Highway fuel economy looks like it may be better but I only have about 200 miles empty at this time and some of that is showing the guys I can spank them big time at the traffic lights .

    TX to Jk and his wife for the fast turn around , only wished I did it a mile one not at 35,000 miles ...... Fantastic tune , keep up the good work !
    93 c-2500 6.5td,96 6.5td x cab,01 GMC lb7 Xcab ,2004 lly crew cab ,2006 lbz crew cab,honda CBR1100xx,2003 polaris prox 700 , 2001 31' holiday rambler 10K lbs house on wheels!

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    Thanks for the upate. I wish I hadn't asked, cause now I'll have to get one. Buy I know my wife won't let me change the exhaust. I guess it would be OK with stock exhaust?
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    JK say to me he is running this program in his lbz truck that is 100% stock .... NO mods , just a tune and he is very happy with the fact that is quiet . If you do just the ECM reflash and nothing else you will be really happy with it.
    93 c-2500 6.5td,96 6.5td x cab,01 GMC lb7 Xcab ,2004 lly crew cab ,2006 lbz crew cab,honda CBR1100xx,2003 polaris prox 700 , 2001 31' holiday rambler 10K lbs house on wheels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45678 View Post
    JK say to me he is running this program in his lbz truck that is 100% stock .... NO mods , just a tune and he is very happy with the fact that is quiet . If you do just the ECM reflash and nothing else you will be really happy with it.

    Any empty mpg changes? Should be across 20mpg on a flat road at 60-65 mph.
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    will your tune void the factory warrenty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. monte View Post
    will your tune void the factory warrenty?

    It certainly could, as could most any other modification.

    Technically speaking any modification to exhaust/intake/tuning etc could hang you up. This is why I prefer the out of sight=out of mind approach. With my tuning, the ECM is simply swapped out and the original stashed in a safe place. No aftermarket hardware to see or fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennedy View Post
    With my tuning, the ECM is simply swapped out and the original stashed in a safe place. No aftermarket hardware to see or fail.
    I was unaware of that aspect relative to your tune. You have peaked my interest indeed.

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    can you give a "ballpark" idea what the cost would be for another ECM and your tune???

    I am putting on a 4" turbo back

    but keeping the stocker just in case, dealership said I could a cat-back
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    Edge Juice w/ Attitude. Best all around performance. No problems. Good luck on the search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. monte View Post
    can you give a "ballpark" idea what the cost would be for another ECM and your tune???

    I am putting on a 4" turbo back

    but keeping the stocker just in case, dealership said I could a cat-back

    I have this item listed on my site under Duramax Performance/Kennedy Custom
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    thanks for the info
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    thanks for the info
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    thanks for the info
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    97 grand am, beater

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