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    Simply put, I bought "The Beast" almost 10 years ago to the date with 16,000 miles on it and it's getting ready to turn an actual 200,000 miles soon. The ONLY thing that would tear it out of my hands is either some super riduculous offer or a new Duramax Suburban if and when GM decides to realy release it, and then I'd have to think twice before 'Down Sizing' to the new body style (that is if GM CEO Barrack doesn't put the stops to it).
    Jim Glus, No longer in the Keys. Traded off Latitude for the Altitude of BV, Colorado in order to adjust attitude.

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    HI all

    Now i have the beast running like it should its great!!

    I have a landrover 142 defender with a new GMC 6.5 turbo fitted in it
    she is great for playing and towing, she has not done many miles since the engine went in i.e. 2k mile .

    the next project on her is to fit a Toyota landcrusier VX gearbox ,
    as the landrover one is a old 4 speed with overdrive and it is getting a bit shot at, to many rattles from it and the toyota one will take the HP and torque from the engine better than the rover one

    Here are two recent photos one of the engine /turbo instalation





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    I will give an updated installment to my opinion.

    I guess my opinion does carry some weight around here on these issues

    I bought my first GM diesel back in the 80's. It was an Olds Cutlass calais with the little 260 diesel. (1979)

    It was a lovely little rig. Got 27 MPG on the Hwy and 22 around town.

    Had to work on the thing a lot to keep it going but it cost me very little to buy.

    The next rig was an 82 Blazer/Jimmy 4x4 with the 6.2
    Ran the wheels off that little beast. Loved it a bunch.

    The next rig we got was a 1986 6.2 Burb 2500
    Put a Bazzilion miles on the thing. Never had much issue either.

    Bought a 1993 GMC pickup 2500 4x4 Ext cab with the 6.5 (New)
    Had good luck with that rig, traded it off in 94 for a Dually crewcab 4x4 and this truck had the first of the infamous electronic injection systems.

    Truck was nice but the problems with the electronics took some of the fun out of it.

    Bought a 95 Burb new in August of 95 was on order for 7 months.

    Lovely rig, same issues with the electronics though.
    Traded that truck off in 97 for a 95 Burb with a 454 (gas still affordable)

    Tried a Ford Powerstroke in 97 SOLD that lemon in 2000 and bought an 86 GMC crewcab 4x4 with a 454.

    Loved that beast, hated the mileage.

    2004 in the spring saw the 95 Gas Burbs demise due to a broken tie rod and resultant crash.

    Then came a return to the diesel Burbs. Bought the 94 that we currently have followed by another that was almost identical. (Had two the same color)

    I must be insane for buying all these rigs (and this is only a few that we have owned) Many gassers and other toys)

    June of 2007 saw the old 86 crewcab off to a new home and the current DaHooooley come into the family.

    Currently 2 6.5 rigs here.

    I guess my overall opinion is this. The 6.5 is a good engine but it needs to be in the hands of someone who understands the little beasts and is willing to get their hands dirty from time to time

    Certainly not for the individual who knows nothing about what goes on under the hood.

    I would if I could buy a brand new 1995 6.5 Burb in a heartbeat if they were available.

    With todays technology and the aftermarket to fix the issues they are a great piece of equipment.

    Now with the availability of the new engines from AMG/GEP they are most certainly top notch.


    Gotta love the 6.5 diesel


    Best

    Robyn
    (1) 1995 Suburban 2500 4x4
    (1) 1997 Astro
    (1) 2005 Suburban (Papa Smurf)
    THIS IS BOW TIE COUNTRY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robyn View Post
    I will give an updated installment to my opinion.

    I guess my opinion does carry some weight around here on these issues

    I bought my first GM diesel back in the 80's. It was an Olds Cutlass calais with the little 260 diesel. (1979)

    It was a lovely little rig. Got 27 MPG on the Hwy and 22 around town.

    Had to work on the thing a lot to keep it going but it cost me very little to buy.

    The next rig was an 82 Blazer/Jimmy 4x4 with the 6.2
    Ran the wheels off that little beast. Loved it a bunch.

    The next rig we got was a 1986 6.2 Burb 2500
    Put a Bazzilion miles on the thing. Never had much issue either.

    Bought a 1993 GMC pickup 2500 4x4 Ext cab with the 6.5 (New)
    Had good luck with that rig, traded it off in 94 for a Dually crewcab 4x4 and this truck had the first of the infamous electronic injection systems.

    Truck was nice but the problems with the electronics took some of the fun out of it.

    Bought a 95 Burb new in August of 95 was on order for 7 months.

    Lovely rig, same issues with the electronics though.
    Traded that truck off in 97 for a 95 Burb with a 454 (gas still affordable)

    Tried a Ford Powerstroke in 97 SOLD that lemon in 2000 and bought an 86 GMC crewcab 4x4 with a 454.

    Loved that beast, hated the mileage.

    2004 in the spring saw the 95 Gas Burbs demise due to a broken tie rod and resultant crash.

    Then came a return to the diesel Burbs. Bought the 94 that we currently have followed by another that was almost identical. (Had two the same color)

    I must be insane for buying all these rigs (and this is only a few that we have owned) Many gassers and other toys)

    June of 2007 saw the old 86 crewcab off to a new home and the current DaHooooley come into the family.

    Currently 2 6.5 rigs here.

    I guess my overall opinion is this. The 6.5 is a good engine but it needs to be in the hands of someone who understands the little beasts and is willing to get their hands dirty from time to time

    Certainly not for the individual who knows nothing about what goes on under the hood.

    I would if I could buy a brand new 1995 6.5 Burb in a heartbeat if they were available.

    With todays technology and the aftermarket to fix the issues they are a great piece of equipment.

    Now with the availability of the new engines from AMG/GEP they are most certainly top notch.


    Gotta love the 6.5 diesel


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    Robyn
    Roybn- Please tell me what amg/gep is. I need a 6.5 asap. Please reply or richacton@gmail.com or 719-207-1750 - anything would help, newbie(bvelectric) Thanks

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    '94 GMC 6.5TD K1500 4L80E 2-Door Yukon SLE 221K
    '93 Chevrolet 6.5TD K2500HD NV4500 Std. Cab Longbed 187K
    '85 Toyota 22R RN60 4x4 Std. Cab Shortbed 178K (Currently retired for rebuild)
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    AM General (Manufactures the HMMWV for the military) AMG
    General engine products GEP

    The new optimiser 6500 and the P400 are the latest incarnation of the 6.5 diesel.
    Redesigned block, heads, crank. The P400 has a total lower end main cap girdle assembly plus the block casting is of a better material (so we are told)

    The P400 is a lovely engine but Pricey $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    A good solid 929 or 599 casting 6.5 block that has little or no carcks and then has had the center main bolts inserted would be a great foundation.

    Add to this a forged crank (peninsular diesel) and some new heads. ( I like the ones from Clearwater cyl head)

    This would make a perfect build IMHO

    Now if $$$$$$$$$ are no object then the P400 would be sweeeeeeeeeeet.


    Missy
    (1) 1995 Suburban 2500 4x4
    (1) 1997 Astro
    (1) 2005 Suburban (Papa Smurf)
    THIS IS BOW TIE COUNTRY

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    6.5 diesels get into your blood then there's no getting away,.
    i have a MGW wannabe dually with the same fancy wood interior, consoles, flares, cab extender thingy with a wing,. sunvisor. It's canadian camouflage in color, with red interior, it has 131,000mi and recently it developed a terminal type problem, 1 hole quit working and is pressurising the crankcase pumping oil everywhere, but it made it home nearly 500mi using 9 gals or oil,.and yesterday when it was F-F-F-F...ahem,.. Freezing cold -30c or so,. after two glows, it fired off as usual on its lumpy 7 cylinders,.went to my friends shop pulled intake and lines to see if mebbe it was something really easy like a skewed rocker arm,. but no ,. so i,ve a line on another engine,.and i'll be transferring all my stuff over to make the old girl go again,.
    I still love the truck,. but i,m almost ashamed to say,. i,d love it more with a LB7 and an allison in it,..(and 3:21's) I like the style of the 92-2000 trucks more than the later models,

    Nick

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    Here's my 1995 GMC Suburban. We had her on display at the 9th Annual Illinois Renewable Energy and Sustainability Lifestyle Fair in Oregon, Illinois.

    Currently with 271,000 miles (81,000 on vegetable oil) AND sporting a new set of SHOES! She's still looking good and hauling BUTT!

    Not sure if anyone can give me particular specs on this truck, it is listed a a K1500, but it has 8-lug wheels (I believe a 3/4-ton suspension and a heavy duty towing package.)

    The paint and clearcoat on the hood, front fenders and the front of the roof is beginning to peel off and the paint on the back side panels is dulling. But, the only rust on it is along the very botton of the rear doors. So the plan is to get her ready to replace the chipping and failing paintjob with a military style rhino lining (without the grit) face lift.

    Here is a shot of the insulated 40-gallon vegetable oil tank.









    Even though it's 97 degrees in the shade and the heat keeps pouring out of the vents... I still think this one's a powerhouse!

    forbey

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    Hi Forbie,
    Your 1500 Suburban has 2500 suspension and brakes due to the heavier engine than the gas 1500 suburban. I think the chassis may be 2500 spec rather than 1500 but am not a 100% sure.
    The only difference that I am aware of is the diff ratio is 3.42 to 1 and the towing capacity spec is lower than the 2500 spec vehicles. Despite this I have found that the 96 K1500 we have is more than capable at hauling way beyond the specified tow capacities if driven approprately . Especially since I installed a 4 inch exhaust system allowing the heat to escape and reduces the number of times the temperature gage red lines.

    Our 96 K1500 was purchased in Houston Texas in 2001, shipped over to Scotland across the pond then shipped over to Alberta six years later when we moved to Canada in Jan 2008.
    So I guess we kinda like our Sub too. Mileage is now nearing 220,000 miles.

    That's a nice looking truck you have. How about an article on your veggie experiances?

    Regards

    Jim

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    We've discussed many times about the draw of forums for the problem trucks, but many times, the owners who don't have any significant problems rarely chime in with the good news stories. This produces a biased perception of the engine and the trucks they're in. Here's a good news I received today:

    Thanks Jim, I’d like to ask u a question: background: I have a 1994 Chevy 6.5 td that has about 340,000 miles on the odometer, and have not done any of the upgrades you’ve written about. I have never had any problems with the truck. The turbo and injection pumps were changed about 2 years ago, but all is well, weird right??? I don’t have to drive 300 miles per day for work any more and I wanted to beef up the truck for more power... I don’t ever pull anything, I just like my diesel truck. Al Green
    As bad as we think the DS4 might be, Al reports his truck required just one in 16 years and 340,000 miles...... Al went on to ask about performance upgrades.

    Jim

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    I've got a 1995 K2500 E/C L/B 4by that I've had for four years now. Its pushing 250k but, I love the thing. Rides like and old buick, and is comfortable.
    Trouble is, it's been left behind a little in the TLC department.
    It is currently looking for new front steering components, new rear brakes, door pins, oil cooler, tail gate fixed, new boards, paint, and to top that all off, now it started to do this surging reving thing, especially on start up(pump?).
    So....spend on this truck or find something else?


    P.S. I may shortly be in need of a dually cab & chassis to mount a tow truck wrecker on. Anyone know if I would have to change the rear axle to accombodate the wheels do they fit on this axle?

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    I can confirm that it is possible, my truck now has 257000 km on the odometer, and the IP is replaced once.
    Not shure when, but it was early in its life. (way before i got it.)
    i have owned it for 5 years now, and i love it ....


    Quote Originally Posted by More Power View Post
    We've discussed many times about the draw of forums for the problem trucks, but many times, the owners who don't have any significant problems rarely chime in with the good news stories. This produces a biased perception of the engine and the trucks they're in. Here's a good news I received today:



    As bad as we think the DS4 might be, Al reports his truck required just one in 16 years and 340,000 miles...... Al went on to ask about performance upgrades.

    Jim
    New sub. 1996 6.5 ls 1500.
    1994 Suburban K2500HD. 6,5 TD 251 000km. sold
    3,5 inch exhaust, no cat.
    Marine injectors. Removed snorkle
    opened intake plenum. 3 gauge pillar. EGT.Turbo.Tranny temp. Fsd Cooler, resistor nr 9.
    Top mounted Air to Air intercooler. Kennedy Turbo master

    intercooler is installed.
    look in: http://www.thedieselpageforums.com/t...ad.php?t=37313

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