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    Default New member, strange project...

    My name's Jeff, & I'm near Corpus Christi, Texas.

    I found the site recently while researching the 6.2 diesels. The reason I'm here is to have a good resource of info for my Studebaker project.

    1946 Studebaker M5 pick up truck (M5 was the 1/2 ton designation).
    1969 F350 dually chassis has been swapped in under the Stude sheetmetal.

    I was going to run a 300 six cyl Ford motor, but after cutting the firewall & placing the 6 in, I decided that it was just too long for this project. The firewall was going to be recessed 8" into the cab.

    The search for another potential powerplant then ensued. Research showed that gasoline V8 motors just sucked too much fuel for my 1 ton application. Sure an OD trans behind a 351W would work, but I was looking at 12 mpg tops.

    So I began looking to the 6.9/7.3 Ford diesels. I found pics of one swapped into a similar Ford chassis- way to big for my application, in my opinion. I need fairly compact size, cheap (relatively speaking), & fuel mileage.

    So here I am- the GM 6.2 seems to fit the bill. I do not currently have a motor, but I'm on the lookout for one. I'm thinking an N/A 6.2 backed by an NV4500 OD manual.

    Questions, comments, or amusing insults are welcome......

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    A pic of the project:



    I do have an F600 powered by the GM 8.2 diesel:


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    Welcome to TDP

    Sweet little project you have going. The 6.2 would be a nice swap too.
    Just plan on plenty of radiator to cool it.

    The 6.2 can be bolted up to a TH 350, 400 or 700R4

    The only real good use for an 8.2 diesel is to use it as a boat anchor.
    They had some serious issues that we shall not go into here.

    Good luck with your cute little Studie
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    Very cool project. First time I have heard of a 6.2 Studebaker project, but it should be very unique! To bad you live way the heck down there, as I have a few 6.2's up here.
    1993 HD2500- 4X4, Nv4500, rc/lb, Lots of mods, killed her. Awaiting her TT rebuild!

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    1995 HD2500 - 4X4, NV4500 rc/lb, GL4, Turbo, exhaust

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    Takes me back to the days when we had a '55 Stude PU - three-speed with overdrive, and the Silver Hawk engine @ a rompin'-stompin' 150 HP. I loved that truck, but then when I went away to college, the Old Man went GMC...
    '94 Barth 28' Breakaway M/H ("StaRV II") diesel pusher: Spartan chassis, aluminum birdcage construction. Peninsular/AMG 6.5L TD (230HP), 18:1, Phazer, non-wastgated turbo, hi-pop injectors, 4L80E (Sun Coast TC & rebuild, M-H Pan), Dana 80 (M-H Cover), Fluidampr, EGT, trans temp, boost gage. Honda EV-4010 gaso genset, furnace, roof air, stove, microwave/convection, 2-dr. 3-way reefer. KVH R5SL Satellite. Cruises 2, sleeps 4, carries 6, and parties 8 (parties 12 - tested).

    Stand-ins are an '02 Cadillac Escalade AWD 6.0L and an '06 Toyota Sienna Limited.

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    I guess its my fault for inviting "amusing insults".....

    My F600's "boat anchor" 8.2 has never given me a lick of trouble. It gets great mileage & runs good. Its slow as molasses in the winter time, but otherwise its been a reliable powerplant. I've read all the stuff about how bad they are supposed to be- seems to be a line of BS as far as mines concerned.

    Actually, for about 7-8 yrs I've felt that way (boat anchor material) about the 6.2s! I had a horrible one in an '82 Suburban that left such a bad taste in my mouth that I swore I'd never own another. But I realize now that it was just an old one that needed a ton more work than what I thought it did. And I also learned too late that a 700R4 needs to be specifically built for the diesel applications. It did give me a LOT of hands-on exp w/ the 6.2s, though, so thats one reason I've decided to try & swap one into my Studebaker.

    No offense there, 6.5 DD, but considering the high in your neighborhood shows to have been around 5 degrees F & my neighborhoods was about 70 degrees F, I'm kind of glad I'm way the heck down here!

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    Totally agree with you man, love the heat more. Actually I live in in Kelowna where the summer time heat is 40+C in the shade
    1993 HD2500- 4X4, Nv4500, rc/lb, Lots of mods, killed her. Awaiting her TT rebuild!

    2002 Camaro L36/M49- Killed In Action

    1995 HD2500 - 4X4, NV4500 rc/lb, GL4, Turbo, exhaust

    1994 HD2500- 4X4, NV4500, ec/lb

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    peardown@comcast.net

    Contact this guy about reman 6.2 diesels out of military vehicles. Last I heard he had purchased ~800 in metal shipping cases. Tell him Mark from Minneapolis sent you.
    2011 Chevrolet Tahoe 5.3L daily driver
    • Previous owner of two 1994 6.5L K3500s, '01, '02, and '05 6.6L K2500s, '04 C4500, '06 K3500 dually, '06 K3500 SRW, '09 K3500HD SRW, '05 Denali
    • Total GM diesel miles to date : ~950K

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    Hey Mark, where is this guy located? I've seen a few 6.2 pullouts advertised on Craigslist & eBay from someone in the Houston area. They seem to be a good deal, but I get conflicting reports on how good a deal the military 6.2s really are.

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    OEM equipment in that '46 was a flat-head 6-cylinder - the Ford six wouldn't fit without hacking the firewall, or you were bolting it to the oem Ford mounts, which caused the space\interference problem in the Stude engine bay?
    jd
    '96 Dodge 3500HD cc 2wd drw............'89 GMC 3500 cc 4wd drw
    5.9 12v #10TST 6sp SBC13-1.375.......6.5TD EFI maxEtorq v2.0 DSG
    DODGE makes it CUMMINS shakes it.....4L80E 205 4.10 Dana60\70HD
    6 in a row makes it go.......................Grandpa's big truck

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    The stock flathead 6 isn't but maybe as long as a SBC.

    The 300-6 is near 3 feet long. I could have made it work, by moving the engine forward a couple inches & putting the radiator way ahead of the stock location, ditching the mech fan, etc- but it just does not seem worth it to me & still have the engine in the cab ~6".

    Besides, I brought home a 6.2 today.

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    That cab was used up to 5ton with 6-cyl Diesel - they had a recessed section for the firewall, with the body perched on top of the frame - I was thinking a Cummins 6BT would go really well with it, twin stacks and all.

    So far it's lookin' good as a dooley - Ford and Studebaker used frames from the same company (AOSmith), and they used the same bed, fenders and taillites into the '60's, tho Ford's said Ford and Stude did not - go figger..........
    jd
    '96 Dodge 3500HD cc 2wd drw............'89 GMC 3500 cc 4wd drw
    5.9 12v #10TST 6sp SBC13-1.375.......6.5TD EFI maxEtorq v2.0 DSG
    DODGE makes it CUMMINS shakes it.....4L80E 205 4.10 Dana60\70HD
    6 in a row makes it go.......................Grandpa's big truck

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