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    I have this thing posted up for sale a few places. So, not to be pushy or anything, but first guy wanting it bad enough and has the cash gets it.
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    hmm. I'm not really sure if I'd be able to buy the stuff from you gopher.
    Don't take it off the market.. if it sells and I don't buy it, Oh well.

    I've got another 6.2 question.
    If I get a 6.2, could I use a small block chevrolet transmission, that would have been bolted to a gas engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gearstix View Post
    hmm. I'm not really sure if I'd be able to buy the stuff from you gopher.
    Don't take it off the market.. if it sells and I don't buy it, Oh well.

    I've got another 6.2 question.
    If I get a 6.2, could I use a small block chevrolet transmission, that would have been bolted to a gas engine?


    yes it can, what transmission are you looking at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 76m880 View Post
    yes it can, what transmission are you looking at?
    Not really sure, was wondering what manual transmissions would fit, and what automatics.

    What is required to make a longblock 6.2 a complete turnkey engine?

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    I asked another member of a forum I'm on about a diesel S series conversion, he has a older style s10 with a 6.5 TD.

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    Quote: Originally Posted by Gearstix Hello.
    I'm interested in swapping a 6.2L mechanical GM diesel into my 1994 Sonoma. Its 2WD, and I won't be off-roading with it.
    I see that you have a 6.5.
    I've been told that I can use small block chevy engine mounts and stuff, is this true?
    Is there any difficulty fitting the diesel into the truck?
    What do you use for cooling?
    What suspension/frame mods would I have to do to make the front end support all that weight? I know my application is a bit different than yours, since yours is 4wd and you use it for off-roading.
    anything else that would help me?
    Thanks alot.



    Have you read through my "It's Alive" thread? If not, read through the last post on this page http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f134/i...11/index3.html, it covers what I did to mine to get it in there, but your's will have a few tweaks.

    If the 6.2 has the same starter as mine, the drivers side mount you mentioned will work, but the passenger side motor mount has to be moved forward to clear the starter.
    That post in my thread should cover the next two questions.

    As far as the frame and suspension mods, I think the S10 frame and suspension is up to it if you add stronger coils and shocks to the front end.

    The biggest issue that I see you having is fitting it in under the hood. Mine has a body lift and no cross member underneath the engine and it's tight. If you measure how much room you have between that cross member and the bottom of your hood, I can measure the hiegth of my engine and it will give you a good idea.

    If you have any other questions or if I missed anything, don't hesitate to ask, I'll help you any way that I can."

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    Quote: Originally Posted by Gearstix Do you know how much bigger it is than a 350?


    When I pulled the 350 out of mine, I sat it beside the 6.5 and was shocked and nervous about how much bigger it was. I didn't measure either, but I would say that the diesel is as big as a big block. Probably not what you wanted to hear."

    I've sent him another message...

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    Seems to be a few people swapping 6.5s into S10s. Here is a post in the photo forum of another one: http://www.thedieselpageforums.com/t...ad.php?t=32502

    Curiously, neither one really shows any detail of the engine swap. The S10 forum link you posted has quite a few pictures of the rear suspension but just a couple gratuitous shots of the engine compartment from the top. I'd think that shoehorning a 6.5 into something that small would be worth a few photos of how it was done...
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    I was looking at some of the military 6.2s on ebay, and I'm thinking the exhaust manifolds that they use might work for my application, or just use oem ones.

    I'm not sure if theres more clearance with these or the originals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trbankii View Post

    Curiously, neither one really shows any detail of the engine swap.
    I did not have any photos of the engine compartment because I made the foolish mistake of bolting in the motor with the 350 conversion mounts before I got the starter. If the frame is modified to use the mount location on the motor before install then starter fitment is a non issue. Also, the lift pump on the older motors is mechanical and did not clear on my frame. I used an electric lift pump. You will also need to remove the factory FI pump in the tank and modify the sender to make up the length of the pump. Heater box mods for clearance are necessary and a/c might be out of the question. Allin all the work involved was not that much more than most 350 conversions. Good luck.
    pics of 6.2 on ebay
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts...ayphotohosting

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