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Old 07-30-2017, 09:33 AM
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Yes, as I said. The specs are speculative at best. They're just foggy (marketing) numbers, and none of them meet reality. The IP isn't the only difference between civi and MIL engines, and you've not applied any of the upgrades necessary to sustain greater power (including the transmission).

Forget the "specs", what you have, and what "they" have. It's greener grass. You have a 1992 model, which is essentially a N/A 6.5L with a little less displacement. It's broken. Fix it. THEN consider messing with upgrades and mod's. Just installing a "more power" pump will likely leave you with a 25 year old boat anchor in a short period.
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Old 07-30-2017, 09:36 AM
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Yes, as I said. The specs are speculative at best. They're just foggy (marketing) numbers, and none of them meet reality. The IP isn't the only difference between civi and MIL engines, and you've not applied any of the upgrades necessary to sustain greater power (including the transmission).

Forget the "specs", what you have, and what "they" have. It's greener grass. You have a 1992 model, which is essentially a N/A 6.5L with a little less displacement. It's broken. Fix it. THEN consider messing with upgrades and mod's. Just installing a "more power" pump will likely leave you with a 25 year old boat anchor in a short period.
Hahahaha that's a pretty 'honest' reply man, I like that.
Guess I'll let them rebuild my current IP then, any idea what would be a reasonable price for that?
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Tough love, my friend. Fish, or cut bait. It's that time.

I have no idea what the current going rate is for a pump rebuild. Shop around. There should be a base cost for the labor, then additional for needed replacement parts. I never spent more than about $300, but that was with good cores not needing much. That was a while ago. I never waited until they self-destruct, and I don't think yours is at that point, yet. The advantage of having your pump rebuilt is, you shouldn't be paying for (expensive) parts you don't need. That depends on the shop, and the tech. Reman exchanges assume an average of failed parts, not considering your core's actual condition, which errs in their favor. That ups the cost quite a bit.
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Old 07-30-2017, 10:09 AM
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Not much space to shop around in these parts of the world.
It turns out a lot of shops don't know what the hell to do with American-made pumps like stanadyne. I asked a Bosch diesel service guy if he could take a look and he send me some place else.

The other place looks pretty good though, it's got everything you need even a dyno. http://buchli.nl/en
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I forgot you are on the other side of the world. That does limit your options, but it looks like you have some options. The link you posted looks to be an exchange service. Maybe call them and ask if they do individual rebuilds.
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I forgot you are on the other side of the world. That does limit your options, but it looks like you have some options. The link you posted looks to be an exchange service. Maybe call them and ask if they do individual rebuilds.
I just read their whole site, they do testing, exchange and if you want they can rebuild your own pump but that will take longer.
If they have one of my type pumps on the shelf I'll let them exchange it, since this is my only car and I hate to do without it.
That would mean I have to rent a car and I hate modern cars.

Might as well let them test my injectors while they're at it.
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Good idea, testing the injectors. They should be tested or replaced with a new pump, in any case.
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Hopefully I'll get a bit better mileage too after the exchange.
I now do about 15mpg (3,42diff, 33tires around 70mph highway speeds at 2100 rpm) and no towing.
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I'll throw in one more bit about the military pumps with "hard parts"

A buddy of mine that builds these pumps says that the hard parts pumps that come in tend to be more "wiped out" than the conventional pumps. He prefers to use the standard parts.
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I have had two pumps rebuilt locally. The shop that does them for me is a 30+ year stanodyne/bosch full line diesel shop. They have a full injector and pump bench rack.
When they do injectors for me, they pressure match all eight. This might be something to consider having your shop do.
I have always had MY pumps rebuilt so that way I know where I am at. Also it is easier to reinstall.
Cost for my shop on my last pump was $490 for the pump and $20 each for my injectors.
Doing the pump and injectors will make a real seat-o-the-pants difference in power and drivability.
Ditto on the hard-parts pumps. My guys dont like them, they said that those pumps were never intended to be rebuilt.
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